User talk:CartoonDiablo/Archive 3

AN/I report made

Per your desire to justify your breaking of the 1RR rule at Tea Party movement, you have a clear shot at justifying your refusal to self-revert when given the chance. Cheers. Collect (talk) 23:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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Why the removal of the expand tag?

We are discussing this in Talk. Join us there instead of just reverting a good faith addition. Cwobeel (talk) 15:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Mitt Romney tax returns controversy

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mitt Romney's tax returns decided to delete that, and the redirect at Mitt Romney's tax returns is protected to enforce that decision. You cannot do an end-run round that protection by adding "controversy" to the title. If you want to challenge the result of the AfD, go first to Mark Arsten (talk), the closing admin, and then if not satisfied to WP:DRV. JohnCD (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

the small survey

Hello cartoondiablo,

I saw you try to push the tabele again into the articles. Please realize that this is not a usefull extension. Your contribution would be wellcome if you write an overview about the hole field of psychotherapy research not only based on ONE small and highly selective study. This kind of approach is called POV in wikipedia. Thank you for your cooperation. --WSC ^® 04:31, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cognitive behavioral therapy. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
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File:INSERM Psychotherapy Effectiveness Study.svg listed for deletion

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Notice of Dispute resolution discussion

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FYI

Howdy, I started a new Incident. I'm curious about it. [1] Hand (Have a nice day). --WSC ^® 16:34, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, CartoonDiablo. You have new messages at Czarkoff's talk page.
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September 2012

Your insertion of that table has been rejected by other editors on three articles. When it went to dispute resolution the general view was that text alone was enough. You may think it was closed prematurely, and its your right to dispute or raise it again. However until the community agrees with you disputed material stays out of the article. ----Snowded ^TALK 04:01, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

PS - I have added a note about this to the ANI case and at dispute resolution which appears to be confirming the previous position----Snowded ^TALK 04:10, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

On the CBT page there are two editors for insertion of the table, two against. At the DRP all editors said the table gave a misleading impression. This is a clear community consensus against its insertion. On Wikipedia we do not re-insert controversial material just because one editor has added a comment to the DRP discussion. And that is all you have done, its not clear if its open again or not. If you persist then you will be reported for a slow edit war. I am also assembling some of the counter evidence to your french study and I will also aim to balance the text next when I have that. Our role here is to reflect the literature, not give one side of the story. Now please abide by process and stop the slow edit war. ----Snowded ^TALK 03:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Just to help you out here. We have the following comments at DRP:

1. Dmitrij D Czarkoff "the table should be rewritten as prose" and "I fully concur with all the other participants in all three DRN cases that the table should not be present in the article in whatever format"
2. SGCM "prose is still the best option because it is more neutral while conveying the same information"
3. SGCM "the image suggestion was again struck down and most of the editors including me, agreed that prose remained the best option"
4. Kerfuffler "I can say for sure that the table is WP:OR'

Note that these deal specifically with the image as well as the table. All of that will go in a 3rr report if you force me to make it. ----Snowded ^TALK 04:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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Edit war at psychoanalysis

• I've protected Psychoanalysis due to the edit war you were participating in. Could you please not do this again once protection expires? If you do it is likely you will be blocked. --John (talk) 17:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Psychotherapies ArbCom

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Thanks, Tijfo098 (talk) 10:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

This is another reminder that several members of the Arbitration Committee are awaiting a statement from you with regard to this matter. If you do not intend to provide a statement, please indicate such at the arbitration request. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 18:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I've left some questions for you in response to your statement - thank you for the quick response. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 20:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

CartoonDiablo, with the case being closed, you are off the hot seat, but only partially. Please be aware that you dodged a major bullet here. Please take this friendly advice; allow consensus to stand. There are times when I find consensus objectionable, but we can not hope to succeed in this project if we don't allow consensus to stand. If the underlying dispute that resulted in a request to ArbCom is not resolved, and it blows up again for whatever reason, I think it very likely ArbCom will accept the case. Trust me, you do not want to have to deal with that. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:06, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

• Well it turns out I was premature. Despite the case being removed after it had been on the requests page for more than 11 days, exceeding the 10 day limit by 31 hours, despite a clerk properly removing it (if very late) because of that requirement, despite there not having been new comments from anyone on the case in several days, despite arbitrators themselves not having commented on the case in several days, arbitrator AGK decided to restore the request [2]. I don't know why, and he does not have appeared to have publicly explained his actions. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

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Do you have any intention of finishing the dispute resolution here, or are you removing yourself from the situations? Thargor Orlando (talk) 17:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

War on Women: "redefining rape"

It's a little bit disingenuous to claim that you don't know why something was removed when you yourself took part in the discussion. Just sayin'. Belchfire-TALK 04:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Revert

Just FYI I edit conflicted with you on reverting this edit. I'm only letting you know because I had slightly different reasoning: that the lede should summarize the body and this isn't included in the article. Just an extra reason in case there's discussion about it and I miss out on it. Sædon^talk 01:34, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

WoW ref

Please read it again. The statement in question is being specifically made about Arizona. The ref does not back this up. There probably IS a source out there, which is why I added the cn tag.  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  21:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

3RR warning for single payer, united states national health care act

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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RFC/U discussion concerning you (CartoonDiablo)

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Request for Arbitration declined

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Request for mediation rejected

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Behavior at Single-Payer and related

IMO you behavior towards other editors has been horrible there, including telling blatant lies about what they have said and done. IMO your behavior regarding the article has been destructive and disruptive. I consider the former to be the most egregious, and if you do not stop I will report you. And it will include putting together the picture of what you have done, which will make the situation quite clear. It takes a lot to make me do that; to date I've only reported two editors in my entire Wikipedia life. North8000 (talk) 13:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

As a warning, you're on your third revert now. Be careful. Thargor Orlando (talk) 00:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

That was again your third revert at Single-payer health care. Please stop edit warring. Thargor Orlando (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Single-payer polls

I'd rather not get into a back-and-forth when there is an RFC open. How about pointing the pertinent wikiprojects (e.g., medicine, politics, U.S.A., etc.) to the RFC with a neutral request on the wikiproject talk pages? I'm sure if more people took a look they would probably respond in the same proportion as the polls themselves.

However, if someone is deleting the section from the article where the RFC is ongoing, that is terrible and you should mention it at WP:ANI I would think. Neo Poz (talk) 03:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

We've gone through ANI as well as every board imaginable, by this point its pretty much up to reverts. Also its on the single-payer healthcare article, the RfC is for HR676. CartoonDiablo (talk) 03:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Understood. I absolutely want to wait for the RFC to close, because it's basically the same RFC because that subsection is essentially the exact same topic as the 676 article. I would really appreciate it if you would ask for further input on the pertinent wikiproject talk pages, because I'm in the middle of going through the giant list on my userpage right now, and I have at least two dozen tabs open. Neo Poz (talk) 03:51, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'll ask for the US Public Policy project and wait for the RfC but if those fail (and a 9 month edit war tells me it will) it'll probably be up to reverts. CartoonDiablo (talk) 04:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Don't forget WT:MED too, please. Neo Poz (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I finally got through that list and noticed you hadn't gotten to this yet, so I did it on both wikiprojects. Let me point out these numbers might seem like a lot, but they are nothing compared to 7 million or 1.6 million etc.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14] So I hope every time you get the urge to revert those polls, please instead write, phone, or fax the leaders of those organizations asking them to send e.g [15] to their membership email lists, Facebook, etc. This will be a far more productive use of time on a cost/benefit basis, and it won't get you in trouble here. Good luck and please let me know how it goes! Neo Poz (talk) 07:01, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Ugh, some IP is edit warring on the SP article, and of course you're going to get blamed even if it's not you. Please respond or request page protection on the version you don't like. Battles poorly chosen means war easily lost. Neo Poz (talk) 22:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring at single payer

You are, again, on your third revert (with zero posts at the talk page, no less). Next revert gets you reported for 3RR. Thargor Orlando (talk) 13:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)