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Thank you, Steaphen (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC).

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Zeno edits

I have replied on my talk page --JimWae (talk) 22:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

It does not look like a mediator is going to show up this decade or even much later. Steaphan has abandoned the talk page. I do not think the article needs to be frozen while we wait. I do not think the paragraph in contention need be frozen either, and I think the alternative I previously edited it with is an improvement from any viewpoint.--JimWae (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, you are right. We should discuss the changes, and then just go ahead.

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There were two contended statements, not one.

Steaphen refers in his statement to an edit to which there was general agreement, and that I kept reverting. This is not quite according to the change log. There were two contentious edits.

The first is the one to which some editors agreed in my absence. It was implemented by Paine on 26/02 9:12 [1]. I proposed an alternative on 28/02 07:42 [2]. I did not edit the contended statement until 01/03 13:28, when I implemented the proposal [3]. This edit of mine was not reverted by Steaphen or anyone else in the meanwhile [4]. To claim that I reverted an agreed upon edit is incorrect.

Steaphen refers to a second contentious edit. He proposed it on 27/02 02:56 [5] after the "agreed edit" by Paine. Jim told him on 27/02 5:38 that he should wait on my input [6]. I proposed a compromise on 27/02 15:21 [7]. Steaphen went ahead and implemented his proposal on 27/08 22:41 [8]. I added sources to address Steaphen request, and edited the statement accordingly [9]. Steaphen reverted, asking for better sources [10]. I provided better sources [11], Steaphen reverted [12], after which I offered to wait for the input of others [13]. An offer that I had later to repeat five times.

My next edit was to fix a problem Steaphen's edits introduced [14] but I did not touch the contentious phrase. Later I updated a reference. I made a new proposal [15] on 28/02 07:42. After positive feedback from others I edited the statement again on 1/03 13:25 [16], which was reverted by Steaphen [17]. The contented phrase "high accuracy" was later tagged as unverified by Jim [18]. Which is the current status.

The logs show that contrary to Steaphen's claim I did not revert an agreed edit in the "Proposed Solution" section, but we had competing proposals for another statement in the introduction. We couldn't come to an agreement, but I agreed to live for the time being with a version I consider incorrect. Ansgarf (talk) 12:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration, etc

Since Steaphen has been indef blocked and has indicated that he is retiring from Wikipedia, the request of arbitration will most likely be considered moot and the case declined, at least for now. I'd like to offer a bit of unsolicited advice. Like Steaphen, you have been involved in editing one article only, namely Zeno's paradoxes, since you joined Wikipedia in October 2009. Technically this makes you an SPA user for the moment. While you are, of course, free to decide which articles you choose to edit, I would recommend that you proliferate your editorial interests and start editing other articles, on a broader range of topics. SPA users are often viewed with some degree of suspicion in relation to editorial disputes. Also, getting too involved in and too concentrated on a single article, especially in case of a long-running dispute related to such an article, even if done in good faith, can often become counter-productive and not good for one's psyche. It is usually a good idea to take a break and edit some other articles for a while, see WP:DISENGAGE. Anyway, just a suggestion. Nsk92 (talk) 11:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I know that I spend too much time on one article. I checked today and I made more than 500 edits in just a few months. Even if you count that I usually have to fix a fair number of spelling mistakes, this is still a lot. While it is not an excuse, it probably happened because Steaphen tried to drag me right from the beginning into mediation and then on to arbitration. I am and was actually for most of the time fairly content with the article, and with how it evolved, hadn't been there one editor who wanted to take it into a very different direction. If it hadn't been for the long winding content dispute, I would probably just have added the paragraph on system design and moved on. BTW: There were one or two other articles I edited, both on system design. No heated discussions there. There are indeed probably other topics than Zeno that would actually suit me better. Thx. Ansgarf (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Commons has its charms, too, especially if you own a camera. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. ;) Paradoctor (talk) 23:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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