User talk:Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason/Archive 2

That volcano, again

Hello
In answer to your query (here), my question was mainly a challenge to the previous editor, an IP from Virginia with yet more advice on how to pronounce the name...
But my questions may well have been answered;
I understand "jokull" translates as "glacier", which is a fairly imprecise term; I wondered which definition(s) of glacier (here) it equates to.

It's a colloquial term applied to any permanent ice sheet. There are more precise terms (like skriðjökull for outlet glacier) but these sometimes get mixed up.

It’s the same in English, the terms have both a specific scientific, and a colloquial meaning. Colloquially, “glacier” is usually used just to denote “a river of ice”, like an outlet glacier.

Also if the mountain under the glacier/ice-cap had a name of its own, or if "Eyjafjallajökull" applied to both.

Hopefully this will answer that.

I does; (I never thought of looking there!). Regarding the “mountain under the glacier” comment, though, I’d made the same assumption, that the icecap sat on a single volcanic massif, rather than a range of separate peaks. Live and learn!

And finally I wondered if the suffix "–jokull" was applied colloquially to any ice-capped mountain ( in the manner of Glacier Peak, or Snaefell, or Snowdon) separate from its actual meaning.

In practice pretty much any such peak in Iceland is also on a glacier, but no. Jökull implies an ice sheet, it isn't used for areas with a light permanent snow or ice cover.

Can you shed any light on any of those? Moonraker12 (talk) 15:33, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for this, its been helpful. Moonraker12 (talk) 10:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

PS I also am wondering about the letter "ll". It seems, like the Welsh ll, to have a particular (and tricky) pronunciation, but there’s nothing on the ll or digraph pages about it: Can you shed any light on this? Moonraker12 (talk) 15:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

The double-l is a distinct sound in Iceland, I'm not aware of any current Wikipedia article that explains it. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 17:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Hmm; I might have a go at that, if I can get my head around it. It seems to be a Voiceless alveolar lateral fricative, approximating to a "tl" or "dl" sound (the Welsh is more of a "kl" or "chl" sound). would that be right? Moonraker12 (talk) 10:33, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Something like that. I don't know Welsh. It's made by blowing air to one side of your mouth with your teeth slightly apart. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 11:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah! Thanks! Moonraker12 (talk) 09:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia's tagline

Hi. I noticed that you participated in a 2005/2006 discussion and straw poll on whether or not the tagline at the top of all Wikipedia articles should be changed from "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" to "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit". I don't know if you're still interested in this issue or not, but this exact change has been proposed once again, this time at the Village pump, and there is currently an RFC (Request for Comment) on the subject where it is being discussed. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 18:08, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Open Street Map

Hi. I've done a lot of work to making pin maps on wikipedia from OpenStreetMap, recently I created en:Template:Location map Norway Oslo actually to display landmarks!! However I just came across the geohack on German wiki. When you click the geo globe on German wiki now it features on the open street map at different zoomable levels without having to leave the site. This would absolustely ideal for english wikipedia and end a long term disagreement over set pin maps and to provide the option for zoomable maps iwthin wikipedia itself. Could you please import the technology they are using on German wikipedia to display open street maps within the wiki site itself. This would be perfect and would mean we could probably not bother with the city pins. Would it be possible to display these zoomable open street maps within article infoboxes themselves? An example. See Harris Theater. If we had the zoomable open street map within the infobox theatre we would not need that pin locator. By default there could be none but a "Click map" option within the infobox. When you click it, it would then display the open street map zoomable as shown here [here. Can you do this? It would be extremely beneficial to us. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

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I believe your {{ns:2}} in your signature is confusing archiving bots (it also probably runs counter to WP:SIG#Templates). Could you please replace this with "User talk"? Thanks! 14:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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Science lovers wanted!

Science lovers wanted!

Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah (talk) 19:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Catholic sex abuse

You can see my opinion of the article status in my comments on the talk page, but lead sections should summarize content, not introduce new material that appears no where else. So while some editors might be thrilled to put something like that there, it simply does not belong there. I am sure that you can find a more appropriate place than where I thought it could be located. Apteva (talk) 05:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you're right about it needing to appear elsewhere, there definitely should be some overview of the overall nature of the abuse in the article, which it's missing now.

But I think the intro should also be explicit as early as possible about the nature of these cases. With your edit the intro just says that there have been criminal prosecutions, but doesn't mention for what.

Anyway I'm not invested in this article at all, I just changed the word sodomy to anal sex because that's clearly what it meant, and "sodomy" in that context was ambiguous. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 13:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

And your reason in thinking it should be as early as possible is? To shock as many people as possible? To provide a how to manual for potential abusers? Apteva (talk) 16:28, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Neither of those. Since you seem to be making some assumptions on my stance based on the nature of the subject matter pretend for a moment that this article was about something completely different, like some band showing up for a carnival and singing a song. The intro for that article should outline:

• Where it was
• Which band was playing
• What song they played
• Why it's significant

Without mentioning the specific acts (or in this analogy, the song) the article is unclear. Note also that I didn't introduce that section to the intro, I only eliminated some ambiguity from it, and then reverted your move of it because I thought it made the intro less clear.

I don't really see why you'd think it would be shocking to be as detailed as possible without undue verbosity in an intro for any article, presenting an accurate idea of the subject matter should be the goal of any introduction to an article, and having for ginormous paragraphs in that article without spending half a sentence describing what sort of abuse went on exactly just makes it a bad intro IMO.

And as an aside I'm quite sure that catholic priests looking to commit child abuse don't need to go to Wikipedia to figure out what sort of abuse they should be carrying out. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 17:01, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The specific key the song was in or two of the notes played, though, hardly make the most important part of the lead. The subject of the article is that abuse occurred, not what the abuse was. It is fine to get into details in the body, but putting details in the lead detracts from the purpose of the article. This is not an article that I have seen before, and I would have done the same had it said "sodomy" or "fornication". I am not writing you because of who might have written the article, but because of who reverted what to me was a quite reasonable edit, in the hope that you might find a better way of improving the article. The article, as I mentioned, is a disaster, though, so hopefully someone will take an interest in its improvement. Apteva (talk) 18:25, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

About inline links at The Onion

We strongly discourage inline external links here (see WP:EL. If the link is important enough to use as a citation, then format it as a citation. Otherwise, don't include it at all. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I think that makes for very bad formatting in this case, the whole point of that section is to mention specific articles by the onion, so why shouldn't they be linked inline? They're not citations in this case.

By making them citations you keep having to click on the citation, then click on the link, then click on the up arrow to go back, it makes for a really bad experience when reading the article. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 13:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notification. I'd completely forgotten that I started this article and didn't think it would ever be controversial enough to have it listed for deletion. For what it's worth I wrote it when I was looking into various biological systems.

I can see where you're coming from by listing it as being too close to a dictionary entry, but as a reader I think Wikipedia's a lot more useful when you can click from a phrase like "this organism eats detritus" and do a reverse lookup as it were. E.g. if you arrived at it from reading about a fungi that feeds on detritus, you might also learn about all the other stuff that eats it and how it fits into the food chain. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 12:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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