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New portal

Jlyster (talk) 18:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC) Hi Eyeserene, my Herbert Hoover edit is available for your perusal on my talk page thanks, Jlyster

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The Napoleonic Wars Portal Hello, EyeSerene! I should like to announce a brand new wiki portal at Napoleonic Wars, which I have created for this huge historical topic. Please feel free to visit and participate in its development. «Vive l'empereur!»   —Regards, Ma®©usBritish [Chat • RFF]

P'daele

What do you think so far?Keith-264 (talk) 16:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello? ;O)Keith-264 (talk) 19:08, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Still here, just about :) Madly busy at the moment - got landed with running a six week course at very short notice - but I should get a chance to take a proper look in the near future. Best, EyeSerene^talk 09:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Tally ho!Keith-264 (talk) 12:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

My changes haven't excited much debate yet, Labatt has his doubts but they are mostly about presentation. Any chance you could get someone with more experience of presentation (role of quotes, footnotes, references and citations etc) to have a look? ThanksKeith-264 (talk) 09:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Gretings, are you any closer to a look at the P'daele page?Keith-264 (talk) 10

24, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry for mucking around on your user page, someone had left a legal threat with contact info and I removed it for you (it's deleted now if you want to see it). Alexandria (Ni!) 20:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for removing that :) EyeSerene^talk 08:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

request for semi protection of Lahore front article

can you please put the Battle of Lahore/Lahore front under semi protection because there has been a lot of vandalism from both sides i have reverted it back to its last stable and genuine state please put semi-protection tag on the article here is link http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Lahore_Front please and thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buklaodord (talk • contribs) 06:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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Falaise Pocket

Howdy, long time no see. I have just did a partial revert on the Falaise Pocket article. An anon has made a bunch of changes throughout, am assuming good faith however he has made some mistakes but grammar has never been my thing ... would you take a look?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 19:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Request to help close RSN dispute

May I request you to please participate in closingthis reliable sources dispute. I request that the arguments be considered on its merits alone. I would like to point out that both sides of the argument feel that retaining/removing the source is important as regards NPOV. Indo-Pakistan disputes are often avoided by editors who hate being drawn into the hassle but we need experienced and dedicated neutral parties to participate, otherwise the augean stable can never be cleaned out. This corner of WikiProject Military History needs people to clean it up. The only way to do it is first of all kill non-reliable sources. (Disclaimer: I am an involved party and I approached you due to your prominent track record in WikiProject Military History). AshLin (talk) 11:41, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. The matter has been resolved. The discussion has been closed by The ed17. Happy editting. AshLin (talk) 04:57, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

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Soviet Satellite

Sorry for bothering you. I'm probably the last person you want to hear from. But I was wondering if you could take a look at the discussions and RFC at Talk:East Germany. Many of us believe that East Germany was a satellite state of the Soviet Union and many of the RS make this clear but there are some editors who disagree. I'm not canvassing, I'm just asking if you could have a look. Caden ^cool 19:27, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I've read the discussion. I have a feeling, based on half-recalled memories, that it might be more complicated than "East Germany was/was not a Soviet satellite" (didn't some of the Warsaw Pact countries have peculiar statuses within the Eastern Bloc?). However I don't know the sources well enough to offer any informed input. If it helps though you're always welcome to leave a notice on WT:MILHIST to bring it to wider attention. Regards, EyeSerene^talk 08:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Caden ^cool 01:34, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Work

I hope things have calmed down a bit. Any chance we can talk about P'daele? Thanks.Keith-264 (talk) 09:44, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Be happy to - what can I do? EyeSerene^talk 09:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Splendid! I've put a lot of detail on the page and also on some new linked pages courtesy of Labatt' who's been a great help. I/we need a formula or convention for what to leave on the main page - 2 or 3 paragraphs under the link to the 'Battle Page' for e.g. I looked at the page for Arras and thought that those were a bit sparse but something on similar lines might do. I think the page could really do with a Haig-British Army hating smoker-out-of-anglocentric-bias sceptic looking it over and also a view on how much of the narrative on the page reflects historians' consensus rather than the synthesis of the sources I have available, which isn't necessarily the same thing. The subject still lacks English translations of lots of German & French work, apart from fragments in Terraine and Sheldon. I've got quite into the gig recently but feel the need to avoid being proprietorial. That said there doesn't seem to be much interest from the milhist aficionadosKeith-264 (talk) 01:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Do you mind looking at my dealings with paulturtle re an edit dispute please? I think he changed something outside the NPOV criterion and undid it and he thinks that I shouldn't have. We're discussing it but I fear that my preference to discuss changes first has found little favour with him. If you're pressed for time would you nominate someone else (preferably soon)? Thanks.Keith-264 (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I've posted some thoughts on the page (your last section wasn't there when I clicked 'edit' so they're in the previous section). EyeSerene^talk 10:41, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it OR to measure a distance on a map in a book and put it in the text?Keith-264 (talk) 20:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Not as I understand it :) Generally performing routine calculations that most readers would be able to perform for themselves isn't regarded as OR (see WP:NOTOR and WP:CALC). EyeSerene^talk 08:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

ThanksKeith-264 (talk) 10:41, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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Re: AIV on 173.0.254.229

Hi, just a quick note to say thank you for handling that report, I glanced at it and didn't have the time to dig further into all the finger pointing. When I came back, I expected someone to have blocked the IP for... well... being an IP. Good call :) -- Luk ^talk 11:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Your kind words are much appreciated :) There were faults on both sides, but I feel quite strongly about the need to treat well-meaning but inexperienced editors decently if we want to ensure a future for this site. EyeSerene^talk 13:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

EyeSerene, thank you for your advice as to how to proceed with my edit, as well as catching this [1], reverting it, and seeing that the edits I made were not vandalism, but good faith edits based upon sources. And you're right: I'll try to find a better source than PerezHilton. Duly noted. But thanks for this as well [2]. Given the labeling of my edit as vandalism by these users with these bots, I have to wonder how many other good faith editors have gotten shafted by users like this while made to appear guilty because these editors in question come across as the good guys going after the bad guys what with the vandalism-identifying bots and all. I thank you for your willingness to thoroughly investigate the situation and be individualistic in your approach as an admin. Your good deed does not go unnoticed. :) 173.0.254.229 (talk) 09:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you very much :) That's unexpected but very welcome (the best sort of surprise really!) I'm glad I was able to be of some help. EyeSerene^talk 10:13, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Well you deserved it and you're welcome=D Hey EyeSerene, sorry to trouble you, but could you have a look at The Talk page history here: [3]. A user has come behind me and reverted me for a 2nd for "Wp:Npov" despite the fact that I've provided a Hollywood Reporter source for the information in question. I reverted again, letting him/her know that I've added a source as to the information but chances are he/she will come back and revert it or someone else will come along and revert it, suspecting me as the bad guy or easy target as I'm using an IP. Could you check into it and perhaps monitor. Thanks! 173.0.254.229 (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply (I don't edit much at the weekends and had a bout of man flu to contend with the last few days as well). Your edits look fine to me and I see they're still in the article. I think WP:NPOV is one of the most misunderstood policies on Wikipedia. It doesn't mean, as some editors seems to think, that we can't report information that might be seen as negative or critical; what it means is that Wikipedia itself takes no pro- or anti- position. Your edits seem to me to follow that because you've presented the information without editorial commentary, included a selection of sources (thus showing that at least two reliable sources have thought the departures were significant enough to discuss), and left the reader to make up their own mind. EyeSerene^talk 09:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear EyeSerene,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

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Great War historiography

The Evolution of the British Army's Logistical and Administrative Infrastructure and its Influence on GHQ's Operational and Strategic Decision-Making on the Western Front, 1914-1918 by Ian Malcolm Brown free here http://ethos.bl.uk/Home.do has an interesting discussion on the schools of thought about the BEF in the G. War, pp 12-32. He gets P&W and Travers wrong but then we all do at first. The Operational Role of British Corps Command on the Western Front, 1914-18 by Andrew Simpson pp. 7-15 is also useful Keith-264 (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

That sound like the sort of thing that would be useful as the basis for a meta-type section. EyeSerene^talk 10:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Closure of discussion about Abortion article titles

Hi EyeSerene. In the case Abortion, the main remedy established a community discussion to decide which title the associated article should use. The committee decided at that time to appoint three experienced administrators to close the discussion. With the community discussion beginning, we are looking to appoint these three administrators, and you were suggested as one such administrator. Would you be willing to close the discussion, when it has concluded? If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me or another arbitrator on our talk pages (or the mailing list, if you prefer e-mail). Regards, AGK [•] 22:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that Arbcom case (I'm still spinning back up after a period of inactivity since last October), but assuming that's no barrier I'll be happy to help out. EyeSerene^talk 10:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

It's certainly no barrier. Thank you - I'll let the other arbitrators know you are happy to be named as one of the closers for the discussion. Will you follow the page, or do you require to be notified when it is time to close? Regards, AGK [•] 00:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Good question. Although I may read over the page occasionally to try to get a sense of how consensus is developing, I won't be monitoring it in any detailed or regular way so if I can be notified at the appropriate time that would be very helpful. EyeSerene^talk 12:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

That's no issue; I'll certainly notify you. For your information, there are two other closers, one of whom is yet undecided, and the other of whom is User:HJ Mitchell. I appreciate your commitment of time to this discussion! Regards, AGK [•] 00:33, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

ANI analysis

Hi ES - the discussion about Moni's ANI analysis got moved to userspace for now. If you're interested then please feel free to join us at User:Manning Bartlett/Moni3 ANI analysis. Cheers Manning (talk) 11:17, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. Watchlisted :) EyeSerene^talk 13:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Your comments on discussions

Due to my block and the requirement for me to force fragment the discussions I was blocked from participating in I replied to your comments on my talk page. --Kumioko (talk) 12:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Ink Wikipedia Page on my sandbox

Hi Eyeserene,

A new version (more objective I hope) of my article about Ink global.

Would you be so kind and take a look at it and tell me how I could improve it or if I can publish it?

Moreover, could you please tell me how I can do to insrt pictures in my article?

Thank you so much!

--Charlotte.chenevier (talk) 12:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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Draft op-ed

Hi Eye, I still have a diagram of the WP vs. MilHist assessment streams to upload but if you can have a look in Feb's newsroom, I welcome comments (on my talk page I guess, so as to leave comments at the bottom of the page itself until after publishing the issue). We'll be aiming to get the latest issue out as soon as this looks right to go. Cheers,

Hoover Edit by Jlyster

Hi, I have worked on the citations in my edit and look forward to your feedback please. Also looking forward to info re copyrights and uploading an image please regards, John L Jlyster (talk) 14:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi John. I don't edit much at the weekends so I've only just seen this. I'll take a look and get back to you soon. Cheers, EyeSerene^talk 12:28, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I've just had a look at your alterations and replied on the article talk page. It's looking good to me though. One minor point - I hope you don't mind but I've moved your signatures to the end of your posts on that page. They were showing up at the start for some reason :) Best, EyeSerene^talk 13:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

No worries........so I gather that it is a standard convention to put the 4x tilda thingo at the end of an edit. So I guess I'll just let the edit article hang in the HH talk page a few more days and see what people say..............gotta go interstate on Wed for a few days so I'll wait to see what's on when I get back........if all is OK then up she goes to the main page. Yes so still awaiting your advice re uploading the image and hearing your frind's copyright comments. cheers j Jlyster (talk) 13:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes it is, and that sounds fine (in fact, I don't think there's any need to wait that long if you don't want to). I'll pick up my email when I get home tonight and get on the other. Best, EyeSerene^talk 13:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

• Just found out from another editor that he thinks that apparently any image published in the US before 1923 is considered to be public domain and therefor not requiring a copyright. Are you able to confirm this with your friend pls? Of course, the fact is that this image was published in Aust, and is owned by the WA Library. I'll ask them what they think however I have a feeling that they won't know. Would your contact be able to answer this question re copyright in Aust jurisdiction pls? Where does one find out.......or is it a case to bumble along and wait for some negative comeback? Jlyster (talk) 05:57, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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STOP BOTHERING US RIGHT NOW !!!

Ma'm or Sir: Are you perhaps aware that every time you volk post to my talk page that you send my Mommy an email detailing the exact nature of the past and instant conflict ? How did you silly volk get my Mommy's email ? Why are you sending things of this nature to HER ? This is RES ISPSA LOQUITUR here....Please reconsider why you feel the need to bring up this matter in my mother's email. You may yet be able to avoid what I think shoul occur. Hopefull, with kindest reguards, John5Russell3Finley (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

His mommy's e-mail? Well, that might explain a few things. John Carter (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

That's got to be the most... um... bizarre response I've ever read. Perhaps we should be looking at WP:COMPETENCE here instead? EyeSerene^talk 22:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

You seem to have already contacted the female in question. My guess would be to send her another e-mail, possibly with links to WP:AFP. If I could suggest a specific proposal, at some time JRF is logged in, distract him from the machine, have her go to the "My preferences" tab, and change his password. She might also perhaps, if she wanted to, create a separate account under a different name with a password only she knows, and tell him that any further edits should be done under her supervision. Then, if she so desired, perhaps contact WP:OTRS and advise them of the situation, and, again at her discretion, perhaps take steps to implement a "disappearance" as per WP:Courtesy vanishing. Just an idea, anyway. John Carter (talk) 02:07, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I've initiated no communication beyond my post to John5Russell3Finley's talk page. I'm assuming that the "email me when my talk page is changed" option in his preferences is set, with his mother's email address given as the contact. However, I'm not convinced that there isn't an element of evasion/misdirection here; he's been registered since 2006 and his edits don't strike me as those of a child. Also, this edit to ANI, made right after his post here, is rather odd. To be honest I don't really know what to think, other than that my concerns about their editing Wikipedia aren't exactly diminishing. EyeSerene^talk 08:35, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I get that sort of e-mail myself, evidently it is now systemic. Regarding the fact of a six year status, it is not unknown for perhaps a now-absent father to create an account, have the password stored on the computer, and then have the account taken over by a child. The main page was vandalized in such a way once, as I recall. But I do think that there are serious concerns. Maybe some sort of ban would be the only option. John Carter (talk) 21:55, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

At this point, I think it is your call, as I acknowledge the repeated abuse of me by this individual makes me less than objective. Based on what you know, what would you think would be the next reasonable step: an RfC/U, some form of administrative action by the community, maybe ArbCom, or something else? John Carter (talk) 21:25, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

P.S. One last possibility comes to mind. There seems to me anyway to be a chance that this individual might be one of our rare editors who might be an older child or adult of rather dramatically limited capacity. One thing that always struck me as strange was when the Salem Witch Trials was under GA review, he added something to the Task Force page about how people didn't "like" the article. No specific details of any sort were given, even including specific reference to GA review itself. Anyway, I'm done now. John Carter (talk) 15:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

• Guys, would it help if we just apply WP:RBI? FWIW, I've no time for these nonsensical people these days, either they are here to improve or they aren't... and hence out, no other way to explain their rationale. Best. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 16:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I've been hanging on to see what their response might be. It seems they've resumed editing. I'm reluctant to indefblock them at this point, but certainly I think if there's further disruptive editing of any sort that might be the best solution. Tbh what I'd like to see is some input from a parent WikiProject on what should should be done with the task force. I saw John's post to one of the project talk pages (WikiProject Christianity?) but unfortunately it didn't seem to rouse much interest. EyeSerene^talk 10:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The work group talk page has had a suggestion that the WPUS banner be adjusted to include the Salem task force as a subproject of WP Massachusetts, and that honestly seems to me to be a reasonable proposal as well. Some editors are in the process of getting the Christianity bulletin together again, and I'm thinking, maybe, of some restructuring in the future there, but that would probably wait until the bulletin makes mention of such. John Carter (talk) 21:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Massachusetts would seem to be a logical choice; in fact, there might be an argument for folding the task force into WP Massachusetts completely. One semi-active editor does not a task force make, and certainly at milhist we've not been shy about retiring moribund task forces. I'm continuing to actively monitor John5Russell3Finley's editing; it may be that if their walled garden is opened up (or removed) the issues will resolve themselves. If not and I don't seem to be paying attention, I'd welcome a timely nudge :) EyeSerene^talk 09:12, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Josce de Dinan

Hi Eyeserene, could you make sure the reference you just added is formatted the same as the rest of the article. Cheers, Nev1 (talk) 09:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Already done (I hope!) EyeSerene^talk 09:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

P'daele

Is the box at the top of the talk page out of date?Keith-264 (talk) 19:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

In what way? EyeSerene^talk 12:13, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

We've done a lot of work on it lately. Haven't we improved its quality?Keith-264 (talk) 12:46, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah right :) Yes you have, but because it's already assessed as B-Class (the highest rating that can be assigned by a single reviewer in an informal review) the only way to assign higher ratings would be to go through some sort of formal review process. The options would be (in increasing order of 'difficultly'):

• Nominate the article for a Good article review. This can take a while to attract a reviewer but is a useful exercise nonetheless. The criteria the article would be assessed against are here.
• Nominate the article for an A-Class review. Assuming you'd go via the Military history WikiProject system (most projects don't support an A-Class review process) the nomination page is here, with links to the criteria/instructions etc. Milhist ACR is within spitting distance of Featured article review, so it's tough but a pretty thorough process.
• Nominate the article for a Featured article review. As you'll know from some of the Normandy campaign ones we've worked on, this is the top of the heap and can be a ton of work.

If you want to go down this route I'd definitely recommend GA first. Hope this helps, EyeSerene^talk 10:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Right, thanks.Keith-264 (talk) 13:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

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Alright

Yes, that's also my account. HOWEVER, I don't use both account to do something such as raising ideas and voting yes/no in AfD. I did use that account for some vote to change, but I never use this account for that. Also I did make anti-vandalism edits. As you've already read in ANI, I believe those account and 2 IP making the pro-Thai edits in those Burmese-related articles. They could be the same person. So all I did was reverting those articles back to the original version. Please don't block me. ༆ (talk) 18:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

That's okay, no-one's going to block you :) As I wrote on ANI, I can't see any evidence that you've used your accounts in the wrong way. You might like to link your accounts though, just so editors know they both belong to you. You can use {{alternative account}} and {{User Alt Acct Master}} if you want. If you'd rather not advertise that both accounts are yours that's okay too... if you have a good reason not to (see WP:SOCK#LEGIT for more information).

The main thing is that you don't edit war again over a content disagreement. The edits that Thaizokku/Sarsein/the IPs were making were not very good, but they weren't vandalism so WP:3RR and WP:EW still applies to you (and Hybernator). If you have trouble again, don't get into an edit war but ask for help at WP:ANI (or here on my talk page if you like, though ANI will probably be quicker).

I agree with you that Thaizokku/Sarsein/the IPs are the same person. I've blocked Thaizokku indefinitely and Sarsein for 24 hours (this time, the next block will be longer). Blocking the IPs will be difficult because they change, but we can look at article protection or a rangeblock if necessary.

Thank you for trying to keep POV out of the Burma articles. Regards, EyeSerene^talk 20:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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The Sarsein/༆ situation, from what I can see

I've looked over the article histories in the ANI threads, and here's what I can make of it. Sarsein and his previous incarnations IP hopping are pushing for a Siamese hagiography in all those articles, as is most evident here and here (in particular, the part about being killed by the king of Siam is extremely dubious, to the point of implausibility), and here (attempting to say that Siamese soldiers killed the Burmese king when the only sources that say that are Siamese/Thai; everyone else wrote that he fell ill and died from disease). If you hadn't blocked already, I'd have probably indeffed Sarsein for disruption, but I suppose it won't do any harm to see what happens after his block expires. ༆ is at least trying for neutrality, but there seem to be some language issues which makes his editing seem somewhat slanted towards the ethnic groups in Burma (specifically the Taungoo Dynasty, the Arakanese, and Burmese). It needs a bit of reworking, but it's much more workable than the three people edit warring with him. If IPs start popping up again, I'd make liberal use of semiprotection, and watch especially for copyright violations (my long experience with South and Southeast Asian editors with bad command of English is that they're prone to copypasting left and right). I'll be watching over them, and I have no problem blocking Sarsein if he tries to force his pro-Siamese hagiography into those or other articles. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:00, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Another suspected sockpuppet: Wongsathorn (talk · contribs). ༆ (talk) 05:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree; I've left an update at ANI (Wongsathorn indeffed and Sarsein too). Thanks so much TBotNL for your diligence and ༆ for reporting the sockpuppet. It was obvious there was a POV being pushed but I couldn't really tell what because the English was so poor. I've tagged the various sock accounts we know about (see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Thaizokku), and I'm happy to block additional accounts on sight as use page protection as suggested (if TBotNL doesn't do it first!). Thanks again, EyeSerene^talk 09:11, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Please check back at those Burma articles that I and User:Hybernator having edit wars with those sockpuppet accounts, there are also TWO IP addresses (starting with 118 and 182) making the same edits in supporting the banned users too. We should block those pages for a short time. ༆ (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

The IPs don't seem to have edited for a few days. We only tend to block an IP address if it's stable, or if disruption is happening now. Because Sarsein looks like he's on a dynamic address, blocking those IPs won't achieve anything. However, if IP disruption resumes I'll happy to semi-protect those articles for you. EyeSerene^talk 12:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Check this out: 182.52.144.224 (talk · contribs) and 182.52.154.76 (talk · contribs). See what I mean. And of course, my idea is that not blocking those IP addresses, but to block for a short time those articles that were vandalized to prevent more such IP edits. Cheer. And which template should I use in order to notice others that I also have a second account? Also, as I reverted the edits by the sockpuppets, those users warned me on my talk page with FALSE accusations as if I'm the one who vandalized. So, could you delete those edits by sockpuppets from my talk page's history, just so when other people see it they won't get the wrong idea. Cheer. ༆ (talk) 02:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I see we've also had a new sock show up, so I've been through and semiprotected some articles (those Marraghi (talk · contribs) showed up on) for one month. Obviously this can be extended/expanded as necessary. EyeSerene^talk 10:23, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I've had to step away from the subject for a few days, but I intend to keep watching over it. Hopefully he'll be driven off by the semiprotection, but I suspect we could be at this for a while. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

As long as it takes :) Thanks for your assistance with this, it's much appreciated. EyeSerene^talk 08:19, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

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Maps 1917

I don't suppose you know of any maps for the passchendaele page do you? Pilckem and Menin Road would be nice as would a relief map of the Ypres area. Thanks.Keith-264 (talk) 14:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, no. I'm happy to create them based on such sources as can be provided (for example, a relief map of the area might not be too difficult, assuming the geography hasn't changed too much in 90 years!), but all my books are still boxed up for a house move that never happened. EyeSerene^talk 10:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I said you shouldn't stab your probation officer ;O).Keith-264 (talk) 11:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Ha, t'was but a scratch :) EyeSerene^talk 12:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Brocage, Etc.

Yes, we DID settle it; You were wrong. Then you waited until my back was turned to revery it (). It was Brocage, as in BIG HIGH HILLS of rock, not "hedgerows" as in overgrown rosebushes. EDIT: I can, if you really want, take this to an arbitration; I’d rather NOT, as that would mean I’d have to spend even MORE time here dealing with dis-information. It’s a difference to YOU of one non-consequential word; It’s a difference to ME of thousands of lives LOST because a couple people didn’t think the difference of words mattered, including hundreds of sappers killed trying to breach those “hedgerows” (each attempt to breach them, successful or not, resulted in an average of 2.3 sappers killed, with at least one being killed each and every time they tried, until the Cullins Cutters came along). I am not the one “Edit warring” here. Trying To Make Wikipedia At Least Better Than The ''Weekly World News.'' (talk) 17:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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Since the dispute clearly identified what the brocage is, as well as brining new sources to light that describe the development of the Rhino tank, coupled with my bordom ... i have updated the page :P EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 12:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking about taking stab at that tomorrow, but what you've done looks great :) Nice job, EyeSerene^talk 13:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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Medal ribbon RFC

Thanks a lot for starting this. Your post does a good job of framing the issues and the best way to discuss them. Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Nick. I hope we get something useful out of it :) EyeSerene^talk 08:07, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	I would like to thank you for resolving the situation with the IP over at ANI. Keep up the good work! Best wishes, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! EyeSerene^talk 09:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Tactical development on the Western Front in 1917

Do you mind having a look at this page-in-progress and offering suggestions about structure and templates etc? I've done a bit of experimenting with the Passchendaele page, Pilckem and Menin to try to slim the main page but only managed to move the problem. Creating a stub seemed the only way to avoid overloading them somewhere. I think that if the page works, much of the expostion on the main page an the other two could be removed and replaced by links. ThanksKeith-264 (talk) 14:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

That seems a reasonable way to approach things. Per WP:SS (unfortunate shortcut that one) we're encouraged to split out content when articles get too long anyway - it might be that if you feel it's just moved the problem then the daughter article needs further subdivision?

There are a ton of templates etc at WP:MILMOS, as well as style guidance. You'll see I've added a couple of tags & templates to the article and talk page. I'll try to take a more detailed look at the article and see what best fits in the near future, though as always my time these days is limited. Cheers, EyeSerene^talk 10:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it's a great help to be pointed to the right place. I need to make some space on the Pass' article for a section on medical arrangements, which are easy to overlook and have some encouraging developments amidst the slaughter. What I've done is copy the exposition of tactics onto the Tactical page and am getting ready to do the bit about German changes at the start of the year. I've even found some narrative about French developments so they will get a bit of a look-in. What I want is something on the trends of firepower warfare and the way that its logic made all three armies converge in equipment and method (within their strategic constraints).Keith-264 (talk) 12:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Revoke 194.145.185.229's talk page access?

Hi, EyeSerene. Can you please revoke 194.145.185.229's talk page access? Thanks, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 13:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Although allowing blocked editors access to their talk page is really only meant to facilitate unblock requests, we traditionally give a bit of slack in that regard. They often feel the need to let off steam and their post is well within the bounds of what we tolerate. If they become abusive etc, talk page access will be revoked, but at present with only one fairly mild post made I can't see anything that would warrant such an extreme sanction. Hope this helps, EyeSerene^talk 09:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

All right. Thanks, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 13:53, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Voting mechanism for Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles

Hello. Over at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles, we have been trying to figure out exactly how the vote that ArbCom called for should be carried out, in particular in a proposal to use Borda Count for the purpose. Upon requesting clarification from ArbCom in the matter, it was suggested that the closing admins be asked for their input, since after all it's you who'll have to read the results. So, if you would be kind as to, at your convenience, provide your input into the current voting format proposal, or suggest other measures, it would be a great help. Thanks! —chaos5023 (talk) 23:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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Frontier Force Regiment

Hi! I am not sure if you remember that about four years ago we were working on this article (Frontier Force Regiment) and I went on an unannounced wikibreak. I know it was irresponsible of me to go away like this but I had to as my studies were affected. Now I am back and saw you active so thought you may be able to help me again. I have addressed some of your concerns as raised on the article talk page after I came back. Regards --SMS ^Talk 20:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Return of blocked user Kurfürst using an IP Address

Just thought you might be interested to know that Kurfürst [4], whom you blocked two years ago, has been editing under an IP address [5] from Budapest, Hungary [6] which happens to be where Kurfürst is from. Does this constitute sockpuppetry? Regards ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 11:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Paid Editor

Resolved

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Page changes

All of a sudden there are pop-ups appearing on article pages that won't go away and the edit pages have changed form. Do you know what's going on?Keith-264 (talk) 22:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I think I've sorted it, I put the ad-block and no script back on and the crap has disappeared.Keith-264 (talk) 07:23, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

That's good, though I'm not sure why you would see that rubbish at all while on Wikipedia, because there isn't any stuff like that on the site. I wonder if you've got some nasty in your PC that's pulling that content in from elsewhere? EyeSerene^talk 07:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

It was a big box at the botton for page ratings and a pop-up in the b.r-hand corner. Everything went back to normal so I wonder if its a difference between the old format pages I use and the newer version that I ignore?Keith-264 (talk) 10:09, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

User:Noozgroop

Hi! I noticed this user since he or she seemed to be oddly non-communicative, and further searching I found this thread, where it seems you blocked the user for refusing to following the manual of style. I'm not sure if this type of edit is an issue, but I've noticed that the user still seems to be changing the formatting of numbers without giving any reason since the block ended, such as here or here (there's a bunch more if you look through the contribs). Not sure if this is an issue or violation, but I thought you should know.--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:34, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I missed this. However I see they're now blocked again so I hope that resolves the problem for now. EyeSerene^talk 07:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary

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Thank you! EyeSerene^talk 07:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Made a mess of moving articles

Hello Eye,

Its been a while, hope you are well. RL pressures resulted in a 18 month Wikihiatus, but I'm back now and working on articles again. However, my long absence has left me rusty and I've made a mess of moving a new article from userspace to article space and I need an admins help to sort it out and you are the only admin I know.

I wrote a new article named Cornwallis's Retreat, covering a naval battle of 1795. This article was already on Wikipedia as First Battle of Groix (an entirely invented name). Cornwallis's Retreat was a redirect to First Battle of Groix and I was unable to move my userspace workbox User:jackyd101/Workbox3 into the correct article name as I normally would. I therefore copy and pasted the new article into the redirect Cornwallis's Retreat and then redirected First Battle of Groix to the new title. I intended to move the talk page from First Battle of Groix to become the talk page of Cornwallis's Retreat (which did not previously exist), but messed something up and now am unable to do it. Are you able to complete this move for me by deleting the redirect at Talk:Cornwallis's Retreat and moving Talk:First Battle of Groix into the new space? It would be much appreciated.

Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Done, I think... EyeSerene^talk 07:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, sorry for making such an elementary mistake.--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Content Review Medal

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Thanks Dan :) EyeSerene^talk 07:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Abortion article titles

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Thank you

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PS. Do you plan on bringing this article to Featured class? I think it is ready for a FAN. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Yes, I'd like to take through FA but I don't think it's quite ready yet. There's some confusion (in my mind at least, which unfortunately is reflected in the article) over the movement of the battlegroups at various times and whether there were in fact three or four. My main source book, McGilvray, is out of my hands at the moment - permanently I suspect, so I'll probably have to order a new copy. I'm also a bit short of time at the moment but when things ease up the article is top of my to-do list. EyeSerene^talk 07:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

RFC:AAT

Hey, EyeSerene. Please see my response to Black Kite's commentary on RFC:AAT, on his talk page. Thanks. :) —chaos5023 (talk) 15:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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Charles Scott

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Firestone dab page

User:AndrewFirestone777 is at it again. Twice in 24h, three since February block expired. Since you put the block on last time, I'm hoping you know what to do this time. I also posted a notice at WP:Bio Talk. Thx in advance. No need to reply. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 06:56, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Abortion_article_titles/Official_voting

Hi there ES, being the sponsor of the add-on option "1+4+12" in the abortion article titles, I realised that I didn't actually state "strongly support", and as I see a "strongly support" from User:chaos5023, I'm wondering if the vote count of '1' is his or mine. I guess it's not really very important, and feel free to ignore this - I also see you are uber-busy! Anyhow, have a great day! 20040302 (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I think it's important not to take the scores/vote counting too seriously - it provides a useful guide for seeing what the density of support was for each option, but probably not much more than that (and certainly isn't fine-grained enough to distinguish between types of support with any reliability). The only reason I distinguished between support and strong support is because people voted that way... but I realise not everyone did who could have done. The last thing I want to do is give the impression that a vote could have counted for more if it had been phrased slightly differently. It won't matter :) EyeSerene^talk 15:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Perfect answer! 20040302 (talk) 09:17, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Your thoughtful discussion of the comments is much appreciated. --Pechmerle (talk) 06:24, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Closure of Abortion titles RFC

Hi EyeSerene. Is a decision about WP:RFC/AAT forthcoming? AGK [•] 12:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Editing dispute

Hi! Not sure if you remember me but I came to you with help some time ago and you were extremely helpful in the matter. Anyways, I'm currently involved in what looks like will become an all-out editing war, so before it gets to that point I'm coming here. Not sure if it's because I'm using an IP or what but I made an edit on the Judge Judy article, which I was able to source with a New York Post article (as shown here)[7] and the same user has reverted it twice with the reason of "original research", despite my telling him that the information came from the source provided. He even has gone so far as coming to my talkpage after I plainly told him this in edit summary (as shown here [8]). Furthermore, each time he reverts the edit in question, he decides to revert all of my edits to the article as opposed to the mere edit he's arguing against. He's got a belligerent editing style and seems to be looking for an editing dispute. Could you help? Thank you 173.0.254.229 (talk) 04:00, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Pretty sure the above user somehow relates to this character as he's been vandalizing my page since the above dispute [9] if you could have a look. Thank you!173.0.254.229 (talk) 11:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)That's not vandalism, please be cautious with the V-word, thanks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Sigh! Eyesore, the trolls are really beginning to build up. Could you please step in ASAP?! User Dave continues to revert my user talk page to a version of an edit that has made accusations of vandalism against me on some kind of notice, as well as in his edit summaries. As it seems the the reversions of user:Melbourne Star on the Judge Judy article, quickly created a domino effect of trolling from two additional users (user: Dave who's reverting the edits on my page and user: Bushranger right above, who's not even involved in the issue), I have to wonder if there's some connection between each of these users. Either that, or they must be types that are just inclined to troll IP users if there's nothing else fun for them to do. Not sure if this is a trolling alliance or if trolling IP users is just common practice on this site among many, but I really don't have time for all the silly games between these 3 users. Again, I'm so sorry to bug you again, but you seemed to savvy to the impulse to annoy IP users the last time I dealt with you which is why I applauded you. Thanks. 173.0.254.229 (talk) 08:52, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Maybe if you started to assume good faith and act civil - instead of calling editor's you don't agree with, "Trolls" - you just may be taken more seriously. -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 10:17, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Just so there's no confusion, the troll, and I emphasize that, above is user Melbourne Star: The user who continued to revert ALL my edits on the Judge Judy article on basis of one edit to which he labeled as "original research" despite my telling him multiple times, it was information provided in a New York City Post source which I placed in the article.173.0.254.229 (talk) 18:19, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

To further support my suspicion that there's a link between these three trolls, they've each trolled my user talk page one behind the other (as shown here [10]). Again, either wiki-buddy trolls that look out for each other whenever one has done something reprehensible and risks being called out or users that pleasure in trolling IPs. If you could protect my page and block our bored trolls with nothing else better to do, it be much appreciated. 173.0.254.229 (talk) 18:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Heads up: This might back up my statements above and User:Bushranger's defense of user:Dave's trolling from out of nowhere. Check out Bushranger's talkpage history with multiple edits from user:Dave [11]. 173.0.254.229 (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

A suggestion would be to take a look at your actions, before accusing people of "trolling". And, calling people - me or anyone else, a "troll" is a personal attack - that won't be tolerated here on Wikipedia.

Your claim I asserted that you were adding unsourced content to the Judge Judy article, is totally beyond me. Take a look at the article's history, and out of curiousity point out to me where I accuse your of original research. Whilst you're there, you'll notice my accusations of not following a neutral point of view. -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 08:16, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

• My apologies that I missed this - my time is very limited at the moment and the only thing I've really been following is the Abortion titles RfC. I hope everything has now been resolved. EyeSerene^talk 13:04, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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Impressed as ever..

...by your exceptional contribution to the abortion titles RfC. When I first saw it, I was completely put off by the loaded nature of the format and questions, and by the conflation of multiple issues, but you have teased them apart in a helpful and forward looking way. I hope Wikipedia will value and celebrate your contributions here for a long time. Geometry guy 22:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello stranger, and thank you very much for your kind words - most unexpected :) It's unfortunate that the closure is proving to be such a protracted process, but I think if editors can forgive us for having real-world priorities and continue to invest their trust in the process as they have their time and effort, we can hopefully come up with something reasonable. Nice to hear from you! EyeSerene^talk 13:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Pictures

Greetings Eye, do you know if there are any formalities required to use photographs culled from books which are out of copyright? There are some I'm minded to use if possible from an Epub version of The Dover Patrol showing the pontoons built for the coast landing mooted in 1917. TaKeith-264 (talk) 11:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Keith. I'm not really sure, though I believe we have used scans of out-of-copyright photos from books in the past. The best place to ask is probably Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. EyeSerene^talk 09:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Eye.Keith-264 (talk) 09:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

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Historiography

https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:Keith-264/sandbox2 contains a piece on Pilckem Ridge 31 July 1917 and the OH which I fear got a bit out of hand. It's too big to use as a note and has some analysis in it not from a published source, (about the absence of published sources). Is it Wiki enough? Thanks, Keith.Keith-264 (talk) 14:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I missed this Keith. My on-wiki time recently has been hopeless, though it should be easing up soon... EyeSerene^talk 10:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

S'alright, I know the feeling.;O) I put the stuff about the OH on the OH page History of the Great War and put the authorial analysis as a note on the Passchendaele pages where it was relevant (Pilckem Ridge, Langemarck). I've also just finished sfn'ing everyting that moves. I've canvassed for opinion about the main page and the battle pages as suggested but not heard anything yet. I've also drastically pruned the P'daele page now that so much of it has gone onto the battle pages. I'm quite pleased with it but I think that there are some sections that still need looking at. Thanks.Keith-264 (talk) 10:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)

Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:

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Request for Peer Review

G'day, I have nominated Pavle Đurišić for peer review with the aim of getting the article to FA. Any chance you could take it on or co-opt someone suitable? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Peacemaker67 (talk) 04:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

RFC/AAT followup draft: willing to participate?

Hi. I'm making substantial progress on my draft of a followup RFC to AAT, User:Chaos5023/Abortion advocacy movement coverage. The draft presently names you, along with the other two closing administrators for AAT, as a closer. Are you okay with that? If ArbCom were to accept the proposed RFC as a valid followup to AAT, would you be willing to participate in closing it? —chaos5023 (talk) 03:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Black Kite has indicated willingness to participate, FYI. —chaos5023 (talk) 14:24, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, sure. As long as some kind of progress is being made...:) EyeSerene^talk 10:43, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, I'm trying. :/ —chaos5023 (talk) 14:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012

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Kind request for a small favour

Hello dear EyeSerene. I was wondering whether you could look over a new intro section for the article History of Iran. I was hoping you could review it's prose and adherence to MoS, as well as commenting on it's clarity from the point of view of a member that (I assume) is not familiar with the topic. It is only four paragraphs, though I'm sure that you can find some constructive criticism. I understand that you may be busy, or maybe just not interested. Either way, thank you :) Karafs (talk) 12:31, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012

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The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

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• Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

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In honor of your service as a Milhist coordinator

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Thanks Dan :) EyeSerene^talk 20:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles

We need to figure out where to go next on this, so some input on where to go next would be good. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I'd appreciate it if you replied to the discussion thread, but I see you aren't currently active on the project :). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 07:48, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Military history coordinator election

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Voting proposal on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage

Hey, EyeSerene. Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is now live, and there's a proposal for using voting mechanics as part of its closing. If you're still willing to help close (and if you aren't, please let me know ASAP), your feedback would be particularly germane to that proposal. Thanks! —chaos5023 (talk) 14:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually, since HJ Mitchell and Black Kite have both bowed out, and you're mentioning above that you don't have time to edit, rather than leave you apparently on the hook by yourself I've removed all mention of names for the moment. If you would in fact be willing and able to help close still, please let me know. Also please let me know if you have thoughts as to where I might turn up other closers. :) —chaos5023 (talk) 13:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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3rd Ypres and associated pages

Greetings Eye, I've finished the first stage (!) , all the pages have been revised expanded and standardised. Someone kindly suggested theat the Messines page wasn't far off an A class rating, which is what I want to work on next for all of them. Any suggestions? ThanksKeith-264 (talk) 08:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations!

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		On behalf of the Military History Wikiproject's coordinators, I am pleased to award you the project's highest honour, the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves. This award recognises your huge contribution as a co-ordinator of the project as well as your work across all areas of Wikipedia over the past six years. Thank you and congratulations. AustralianRupert (talk) 10:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations! - you deserved this several times over for your contributions as an editor and coordinator. Nick-D (talk) 10:04, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Very true -- 'grats from me too, Eye. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 16:14, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012

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Closing the Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles RfC

Hello EyeSerene, I was wondering if you would consider wrapping up some unfinished business: Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles#Closing this RfC. I know it's not a pleasant task, but it would be nice to have some closure at least. Cheers. Kaldari (talk) 00:53, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012

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AFV identification

Hey EyeSerene, long time no see. I thought I'd just draw your attention to this discussion that you may be able to contribute to. Cheers, Ranger Steve ^Talk 13:26, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012

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'Tis that season again...

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Article ownership issues among friends

Hey EyeSerene, are you still an active on Wikipedia?! I saw that your last edit was from last year in September. I wanted to report issues of article ownership I'm having with a few users who appear to be friends and thus have taken over an article. They seem to throw wiki policies my way and try to find excuses for dismissing sourced edits I make, then don't want the same wiki policies to apply to them and seem to be using their numbers to reinforce this. However, I'm not sure if I should go too in-depth here as I'm not sure whether or not you're still active.AmericanDad86 (talk) 23:19, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, from a long time ago

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		I am in the middle of copy-editing the Honours Research Essays of several colleagues, and the clunkiness of the prose is horrific. Thank-you for teaching me - all those years ago on Verrieres Ridge, Tractable, and so many other articles - the value of fine prose in writing. Cam (Chat)(Prof) 21:04, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVI, May 2013

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Main Page appearance: Operation Charnwood

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Operation Charnwood was a Second World War Anglo-Canadian offensive to capture the German-occupied French city of Caen that took place from 8–9 July 1944, during the Battle of Normandy. It was also hoped to forestall the transfer of German armoured units to the American sector of the front. Preceded by a controversial bombing raid that destroyed much of Caen's historic Old City, Charnwood began with three infantry divisions attacking German positions supported by artillery and tanks. British I Corps made gradual progress against the 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend and 16th Luftwaffe Field Division. By the end of the first day, the 3rd Canadian and British 3rd and 59th (Staffordshire) Infantry Divisions had reached Caen's outskirts. Entering the city the following morning, the Allies encountered resistance from German units withdrawing across the Orne. Carpiquet airfield was captured, and by evening the Allies had reached the Orne's north bank. The operation was then halted as the bridges south were defended or impassable and German reserves were positioned to oppose their crossing. Despite I Corps' losses, Charnwood was a tactical success. Operationally, it achieved mixed results. (Full article...)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVII, June 2013

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• As a listed GA participant, you are invited to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the question of whether Good Articles should be eligible to appear in the Did You Know? slot in future. Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Thank you in advance. Gilderien Chat|Contributions03:08, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIX, August 2013

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new Featured and A-Class content Book reviews: Nick-D looks at the death of Osama bin Laden Op-ed: Sturmvogel_66 presents his secrets of prolific contribution

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 00:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Notification of pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in over one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions will be removed pending your return if you do not return to activity within the next month. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated should this occur, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e., as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. MadmanBot (talk) 00:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Kirill ^[talk] 17:42, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new Featured and A-Class content Book reviews: Nick-D looks at the American Civil War

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Notification of imminent suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

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Suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in over one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions have been removed pending your return. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e. as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised, that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions, and that you have not been inactive for a three year period of time). If you remain inactive for a three year period of time, including the present year you have been inactive, you will need to request reinstatement at WP:RFA. This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. WJBscribe (talk) 22:42, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...

New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.

New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??

New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges

News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration

Read the full newsletter

Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 20:49, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

GAN December 2013 Backlog Drive

Hello! A GAN Backlog Drive will begin in less than 4 days! In past Backlog Drives, the goal was to reduce the backlog of Good article nominations. In the upcoming drive, another goal will be added - raising as much money as we can for the Wikimedia Foundation. How will this work? Well, its pretty simple. Any user interested in donating can submit a pledge at the Backlog Drive page (linked above). The pledge should mention the amount of money the user is willing to donate per review. For example, if a user pledges 5 cents per review and 100 nominations are reviewed, the total donation amount is $5.00. At the time this message was sent out, two users have submitted pledges for a total of 8 cents per review. All pledges, no matter how much money, are greatly appreciated. Also, in no way is this saying you must make a pledge. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or leave a message on the Backlog Drive talk page. And remember, there are less than 4 days before the drive starts!--EdwardsBot (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

GAN December 2013 Backlog Drive

Hello! Just a friendly reminder that the GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on December 31, 2013! If you know anyone outside of the WikiProject that may be interested, feel free to invite them to the drive! If you have any questions or want to comment about something regarding the drive, post them here--EdwardsBot (talk) 00:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 15:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year EyeSerene!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello EyeSerene: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, BusterD (talk) 06:25, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2014}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive

It's that time again! Starting on March 1, there will be another GAN Backlog Drive! There will be several changes compared to previous drives:

• This drive will introduce a new component to it; a point system. In a nutshell, older nominations are worth more points than newer nominations. The top 3 participants who have the points will be awarded the Golden, Silver, or Bronze Wikipedia Puzzle Piece Trophy, respectively.
• Unlike the December 2013 Backlog Drive, earning an additional barnstar if you reached your goal has been removed.
• The allowance to have insufficient reviews has been lowered to 2 before being disqualified.
• An exception to the rule that all reviews must be completed before the deadline has been created.

Also, something that I thought I would share with all of you is that we raised $20.88 (USD) for the WMF in the December 2013 drive. It may not sound like a lot but considering that that was raised just because we reviewed articles, I would say that's pretty good! With that success, pledges can be made for the upcoming drive if you wish.

More info regarding the drive and full descriptions regarding the changes to this drive can be found on the the drive page. If you have any questions, feel free to leave a message on the drive talk page.

I look forward to your participation and hope that because of it, some day the backlog will be gone!

--Dom497

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

GAN March 2014 Backlog Drive

The March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on April 1, 2014! Sent by Dom497 on behalf of MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Motto of the Day Help Request April 2014

Today's motto...

→ Who's this "we" you're talking about?

Nominate one today!

Motto of the Day (WP:MOTD) is in a state of emergency and really needs your help! There are not enough editors who are reviewing or nominating mottos at Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/In review, and this probably means that you will notice a red link or “This space for rent” as our mottos for the next weeks and months.

Please take a moment to review the nominations and nominate your own new mottos at Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/In review and Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/'Specials. Any help would be appreciated! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:13, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

This message has been sent by pjoef on behalf of Motto of the Day to all editors of the English Wikipedia who are showing MOTD's templates on their pages, and to all the participants to MOTD: (page, template, and category).

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good articles Future GAN Backlog Drive

Hello everyone! Hope you've all been having a great summer!

TheQ Editor recently proposed the idea of having another Backlog Drive in either September/October or November/December of this year. For those of you who have participated in the past two drives you know I was the one who organized them, however, come September, this will be my most important year in school so I will not be able to coordinate this drive (if it happens). TheQ Editor has volunteered to be a coordinator for the drive. If any of you would like to co-coordinator, please notify TheQ Editor on his talk page.

If you would be interested in participating in a Backlog Drive sometime before the end of this year, please notify TheQ Editor. Also, make sure to specify what month(s) work best for you.

At the time this message was sent out, the backlog was at 520 nominations. Since May, the backlog has been steadily increasing and we are currently near an all time high. Even though the backlog will not disappear over one drive, this drive can lead to several others which will (hopefully) lead to the day where there is no longer a backlog.

As always, the more participants, the better, and everyone is encouraged to participate!

Sent by Dom497--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

GA Cup

Hello everyone! We hope you have all been having a great summer!

As we all know, the recent GAN Backlog Drives have not had any big impact on the backlog. Because of that, me (Dom497), Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor have worked on an idea that could possibly finally put a dent into the massive backlog. Now, I will admit, the idea isn't entirely ours as we have took the general idea of the WikiCup and brought it over to WikiProject Good Articles. But anyways, here's what we have in mind:

For all of you that do not know what the WikiCup is, it is an annual competition between several editors to see who can get the most Good Articles, Featured Article's, Did You Know's, etc. Based of this, we propose to you the GA Cup. This competition will only focus on reviewing Good articles.

For more info on the proposal, click here. As a FYI, the proposal page is not what the final product will look like (if you do go ahead with this idea). It will look very similar to WikiCup's page(s).

The discussion for the proposal will take place here. Please let us know if you are interested, have any concerns, things to consider, etc.

--Dom497, Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles - GA Cup

WikiProject Good Articles's 2014-15 GA Cup WikiProject Good articles is holding a new competition, the GA Cup, from October 1, 2014 - March 28, 2015. The Cup will be based on reviewing Good article nominations; for each review, points will be awarded with bonuses for older nominations, longer articles and comprehensive reviews. All participants will start off in one group and the highest scoring participants will go through to the second round. At the moment six rounds are planned, but this may change based on participant numbers. Some of you may ask: what is the purpose for a competition of this type? Currently, there is a backlog of about 500 unreviewed Good article nominations, almost an all time high. It is our hope that we can decrease the backlog in a fun way, through friendly competition. Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors! Sign-ups will be open until October 15, 2014 so sign-up now! If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the four judges. Cheers from NickGibson3900, Dom497, TheQ Editor and Figureskatingfan. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC) To receive future GA Cup newsletter, please add your name to our mailing list.

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Clarification motion

A case (Gibraltar) in which you were involved has been modified by motion which changed the wording of the discretionary sanctions section to clarify that the scope applies to pages, not just articles. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 21:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)