Template talk:Infobox golf tournament

Reworked

I have reworked the template so most fields will now only appear when data has been entered. Also expanded so it can be used for current and former events, effectively making the Template:Infobox Former Golf Tournament redundant. bigissue (talk) 14:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

FedEx Cup points

In looking at this template on various tournament pages, I got to thinking that maybe the FedEx Cup point value for that tournament should be included in this infobox. Most tournaments have the same value, but some are different (see List of point distributions of the FedEx Cup). With this championship format here to stay, it might make sense to include that point value in the infobox, with a link to the FedEx Cup page explaining it. Very few tournament pages have links to that page, and this addition could easily show which tournaments have more points. Obviously, non-PGA events would need this item to remain blank/hidden, but it might be of benefit to the PGA tour events. I welcome thoughts from others on this idea. Thanks. --Mtjaws (talk) 21:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Record to-par score

There seems to be differing views on the To-par field. The question is this:

• Should it reflect the total score to par record, or the single round to-par record?

My view has always been that it should be the former since it follows on from the aggregate, and we could add another field for the single round record. _wjemather^bigissue 10:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The original documentation on this page was a cut-and-paste from Template:Infobox golf facility. I think that retaining the to-par record as a single round record was a mistake from the start. Even the example given contradicted the stated usage (-12 as the record at the U.S. Open was for 72-holes not 18-holes). The tournament record is much more notable than the single round record (and much easier to find and document). Tewapack (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it's useful to display both total tournament and single round records. I'd suggest displaying the total tournament as a total and to-par and the single round record only to par. Perhaps like this:

Record Scores
Tournament        270 (-23) Tiger Woods (2009)
Single Round        -8 Phil Mickelson (2008, 3rd round)
--Crunch (talk) 00:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

The problem with combining the tournament records is that they aren't always the same. As a tournament moves to a different course it often has a different par so the two records can be different, see for example U.S. Open, or Valero Texas Open. If the single round record is added, it would have to be a similar two-part record - for the same reason. Tewapack (talk) 05:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Having thought about it some more, I don't think the single round record is significant enough to be included in the infobox anyway, since although it may be listed in tournament stats, it virtually never gets mentioned anywhere else. _wjemather^bigissue 09:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Are you kidding? A low single round score is the gold standard in golf. If someone shoots a low single round score either raw score or score-to-par, it's notable. It gets mentioned all the time when it happens. With regard to data no longer being relevant when the tournament moves to another course, much of the information in the infobox is no longer relevant when a tournament changes courses. Some of it is no longer relevant from year-to-year even on the same course. This includes: purse, yardage, month held, par.

Location field

The location field should be at the city level - the infobox is used to summarize the tournament information which almost always includes the course that the tournament is played on and the city where that course is located. For tournaments that moved every year (like most national opens) maybe just the country is enough in the location field but I still feel that it is more informative to include the city and note that it is for the current year only. Tewapack (talk) 15:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Likewise, I think it should be determined on a case by case basis and very much depends on the nature of the tournament. What I will say is that including the City/State for tournaments that move around does add extra maintenance, but with the need to change the course anyway perhaps it is not too much of a chore. _wjemather^bigissue 09:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)