Template talk:Bluebell Railway

East Grinstead (Bluebell Railway) station lines

Layout of East Grinstead (Bluebell Railway) station lines can be seen this this planning application. David Bailey (talk) 11:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Holywell Waterworks Halt

On the map of the line should be added Holywell Waterworks between Freshfield Halt and Bluebell Halt. It opened around 1962 and had a short operating life of only a few years.[[Steamybrian2 (talk) 12:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)]]

Location of East Grinstead Original Station

I've just been looking at old-maps.co.uk, and the 1898/1899 OS map shows that the East Grinstead Original Station was on the Former Three Bridges to Tunbridge Wells Central Line to the East of the East Grinstead High level station... so why do we have it on a spur? How can we put it on that line without converting the diagram to a {BS-2} format? David Bailey (talk) 11:11, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Play around with the following on this talk page and see what you can do:

Bluebell Railway
Oxted Line to London St Margaret's Junction with Three Bridges to Tunbridge Wells Central Line (Below) East Grinstead High / Original Station East Grinstead Low Level Station East Grinstead (Bluebell Railway) (Site of former goods depot) Border between National Rail and Bluebell Railway Hill Place / Imberhorne Viaduct

I'm going to go with the layout (right) suggested by Britmax and add it to the main template. David Bailey (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

This revision seems to have moved the original station (the 1855 terminus from Three Bridges) onto the 1882 Lewes line, which would be wrong. Am I misreading something? --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

My mistake. I misread the maps I was working from. This seem closer (right): David Bailey (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Bluebell Railway
Oxted Line to London St Margaret's Junction Three Bridges to Tunbridge Wells Central Line East Grinstead High (Opened 1883) / Second Station (Opened 1866) East Grinstead Low (Remodelled 1970) / Original Station (Opened 1855) Goods yard East Grinstead (Bluebell Railway) Border between National Rail and Bluebell Railway Hill Place / Imberhorne Viaduct

I think that's it, based on a hasty look at Mitchell and Smith. Speedy fix! --Old Moonraker (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. To stop the diagram growing wider, from BS6 to a BS7, I'll need to use overlays like this (right). What do you think of this solution? David Bailey (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Bluebell Railway
Oxted Line to London St Margaret's Junction Three Bridges to Tunbridge Wells Central Line East Grinstead High (1883) / Second Station (1866) East Grinstead Low (1970) / Original Station (1855) Goods yard East Grinstead (Bluebell Railway) Border between National Rail and Bluebell Railway Hill Place / Imberhorne Viaduct

Nitpicking from someone who hasn't mastered the necessary syntax yet isn't very attractive but, according to the map on page 16 of The Oxted Line ISBN 0-85361-103-3 (1981 revision), the N-S chord through the goods yard led directly onto the piece of track associated with the 1855 station and didn't touch the 1866 extension eastwards. Old-maps.co.uk offers a view of the O.S. 1899 1:2500 (in the hope that you will buy a printed copy online) and this seems to confirm. It's a bit of a fussy distinction. Apart from that, it looks good; the dates definitely need to be included and leaving out the self-evident "opened" saves a bit of space and is also a big improvement. --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:40, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done. And with the use of some half-width icons, I was actually able to narrow the entire diagram to BS5. However, when I looked at the above-mentioned O.S. map, it appeared that there was some criss-crossing of tracks that would allow either approach into either station. If that wasn't the case, then just replace the fourth row of the diagram with this code:

{{BS7|exdCONTgq|exdABZql|eTBHFxu|O3=HUBa|exSHI1lq|O4=ex-STR+l|exvSTRq|O5=exSHI2rq-|exdBHFq-KBHFeq|exdCONTfq-||'''[[East Grinstead railway station#High Level|East Grinstead High]]''' <small>(1883)</small> {{!}} {{BSsplit|[[East Grinstead railway station#History|Second Station]] (1866)|[[East Grinstead railway station#History|Original Station]] (1855)}} }}

which will display thus:

Useddenim (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

I think the patient revisions from Users David Bailey and Useddenim are within sight of a result. Two points: AFAICS Useddenim's second alternative, shown here and not in the template itself yet, is the right one; the question of "either approach into either station" from the west and south didn't arise, as the two stations weren't both in existence at the same time. The "East Grinstead Low" came in to service with the Lewes and East Grinstead Rly of 1882, just beneath the "High"; the 1970 station, just to the south of East Grinstead Low, was just "East Grinstead". --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

So, like this (right)? David Bailey (talk) 08:45, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Bluebell Railway
Oxted Line to London St Margaret's Junction Three Bridges to Tunbridge Wells Central Line East Grinstead High (1883) | Second Station (1866) Original Station (1855) East Grinstead Low (1882) | Goods yard East Grinstead (1970) | East Grinstead (Bluebell Rwy) Border between National Rail and Bluebell Railway Hill Place / Imberhorne Viaduct

I really think this is it. Once again, apologies for the fault-finding while doing none of the actual work. --Old Moonraker (talk) 09:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've put that revision in place. David Bailey (talk) 09:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)