Template:Did you know nominations/When Marnie Was There (novel) 2
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 16:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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When Marnie Was There (novel)
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that Joan G. Robinson felt that through writing the novel When Marnie Was There, she "faced the truth and found understanding" about her emotionally distant mother?Source: "I am Anna of course, and Marnie is my mother. My mother was always un-get-atable. Without meaning to, she always let me down. I found this extremely difficult to forgive, for without realising parents are in the same boat as yourself, that they are children, too, you can’t forgive them for being frail and human. But until you learn to forgive, you yourself are crippled, can’t begin to grow up. Through writing Marnie I faced the truth and found understanding. It made things a lot better." Source: Carter, Hannah (September 29, 1969). "Charley". The Guardian. p. 7. (subscription may be required or content may be available in libraries)- ALT1: ... that Joan G. Robinson felt that through writing the novel When Marnie Was There, she "faced the truth and found understanding" about her emotionally distant relationship with her mother?
- Comment: Have worked this article up to GA status. I submitted this hook before, but was rejected then because did not meet 5x criteria. This was the previous nomination, for context. The source is a dead tree newspaper that's been verified on newspapers.com.
Improved to Good Article status by JAYFAX (talk). Self-nominated at 19:22, 1 February 2022 (UTC).
Article is netural, meets the required length, and is sufficiently referenced. Promoted to GA on February 1, the same day as this nomination. Hook is interesting, succinct, and reliably sourced—a fascinating and somewhat poignant fact, and well done on finding this reference in the first place. Nominator is exempt from QPQ. Nothing else needed—this is good to go! – Rhain ☔ 23:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JAYFAX and Rhain: I'm a little concerned that the hook labels the mother as "emotionally distant" without much in the way of outside evidence. since we're already talking about Gendo Ikari, Amakuru, I wonder what you think? Obviously, emotionally distant isn't abusive and it doesn't fall under BLPCRIME, but still, there is WP:DYK#gen4... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 10:24, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Robinson and her mother are dead so aren't covered by BLP, but of course I understand the actual verifiability of the matter is what's in question. I believe "emotionally distant" is a correct interpretation of "un-get-atable", particularly in the context of this interview and the topic of the article. JAYFAX (talk) 16:41, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JAYFAX: well, sure, but does the fact that this woman wrote a book about her mother being emotionally distant mean that we can really call her mother emotionally distant? This hook seems to focus unduly on a negative aspect of her mother that we can't quite prove. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:39, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Strikedthrough and provided alt with additional wording ("... relationship with her ..."). Best I can offer JAYFAX (talk) 19:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JAYFAX: that works for me—thanks! :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 16:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- @JAYFAX:
- @Theleekycauldron: Strikedthrough and provided alt with additional wording ("... relationship with her ..."). Best I can offer JAYFAX (talk) 19:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JAYFAX: well, sure, but does the fact that this woman wrote a book about her mother being emotionally distant mean that we can really call her mother emotionally distant? This hook seems to focus unduly on a negative aspect of her mother that we can't quite prove. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:39, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Robinson and her mother are dead so aren't covered by BLP, but of course I understand the actual verifiability of the matter is what's in question. I believe "emotionally distant" is a correct interpretation of "un-get-atable", particularly in the context of this interview and the topic of the article. JAYFAX (talk) 16:41, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JAYFAX and Rhain: I'm a little concerned that the hook labels the mother as "emotionally distant" without much in the way of outside evidence. since we're already talking about Gendo Ikari, Amakuru, I wonder what you think? Obviously, emotionally distant isn't abusive and it doesn't fall under BLPCRIME, but still, there is WP:DYK#gen4... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 10:24, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
