Template:Did you know nominations/String quartets (Waterhouse)
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:58, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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String quartets (Waterhouse)
edit... that Graham Waterhouse played the cello in his compositions with string quartet celebrating his fiftieth birthday?
- Reviewed: Eric Gautier
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nominated at 15:29, 18 February 2015 (UTC).
- This article is new enough and long enough. The hook fact is well cited, the article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- * Thanks for looking, you changed to
- ALT:
... that Graham Waterhouse played the cello in his compositions for string quartet celebrating his fiftieth birthday? - That misses Piccolo Quintet and Bassoon Quintet, where the wind instrument has the solo juxtaposed to the quartet. Only one quartet was played then, Prophetiae Sibyllarum. Wording for that welcome! Perhaps we even need a different article title? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- ALT:
- * Thanks for looking, you changed to
- Cwmhiraeth, Gerda reverted your change of "with" to "for"; she has now listed the version you approved as an ALT. Can you please revisit, and reply to Gerda's point? I don't want this to be promoted to prep in the interim if "with" was a sticking point for you. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I see the point Gerda is making, so we had better go with the original hook as it is now, including the word "with". Perhaps I should stop reviewing Gerda's nominations because the phraseology of the hooks often seem odd to me, and any trivial changes I make to the hook in order to make the English more idiomatic are resisted with such vigour. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't see any vigour in saying that I think a piece for string quartet is understood as a piece "only" for string quartet, - I am ready to learn if that is wrong. Two of three pieces played were not "only" for string quartet, but piccolo and string quartet resp. bassoon and string quartet, which I think is described better as "with" string quartet, - again I am ready to learn. It's the fact, not the idiom which I question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- A better way of phrasing "compositions with string quartet" would be "compositions for string quartets, some with additional instruments" or somesuch, but that is obviously too long. In my view the word "with" is misused in this hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:07, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- I am open to something that is not too long, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- How about: Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:36, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- I am open to something that is not too long, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- A better way of phrasing "compositions with string quartet" would be "compositions for string quartets, some with additional instruments" or somesuch, but that is obviously too long. In my view the word "with" is misused in this hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:07, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't see any vigour in saying that I think a piece for string quartet is understood as a piece "only" for string quartet, - I am ready to learn if that is wrong. Two of three pieces played were not "only" for string quartet, but piccolo and string quartet resp. bassoon and string quartet, which I think is described better as "with" string quartet, - again I am ready to learn. It's the fact, not the idiom which I question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1:
... that Graham Waterhouse played the cello in his compositions for string quartet and solo instruments at the concert to celebrate his fiftieth birthday? - ALT2:
... that in a concert to celebrate his fiftieth birthday, Graham Waterhouse played the cello in some of his own compositions?
- Forgive me but that is Easter egg hunt, especially the last one ;) - String quartets should appear, - also it was more than one concert, one in Munich, on in London, one in Frankfurt, - not all mentioned in the article, but we can't say "the concert".
- ALT3 ... that celebrating his fiftieth birthday, Graham Waterhouse played the cello in his compositions for string quartet, some with a solo instrument? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Reinstating my tick to approve ALT3. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:13, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, strike others, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 16 March 2015 (UTC)