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Snow Globe Game

Moved to mainspace by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 52 past nominations.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC).

  • Not a full review, more of a comment, but per the old supplementary guidelines "Don't assume everyone worldwide knows what country or sport you're talking about." and perhaps more relevantly WP:DYKINT, a rephrasing or different angle may be in order. Most of the world might not understand the hook as currently written as it relies somewhat on specialist American football terminology. This is not to say the hook angle is itself unusable, just that it may need to be reworded for the benefit of international readers and/or non-sports fans. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
    • I will await a full review. Thanks. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
    • @Gonzo fan2007: The article was new enough at the time of the nomination (moved to mainspace) and meets length requirements. I cannot use Earwig at the moment so the copyvio check will be to follow. A QPQ has been done. Most of the article is properly sourced. However, as mentioned above, the hook as currently written is rather specialist and thus may not be easily understood or appreciated by non-specialist readers. It's rather long, very detailed, and complicated, in addition to it confusing non-American readers. Due to these concerns, ALT0 has been struck. A simplified version of its hook fact, or perhaps a different angle, will be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
      • I would appreciate another reviewer taking this nom. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:39, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
I can respect that, and per your message I won't be participating in your nominations moving forward. However, I still think that the hook hard to read, and the interesting aspect is lost among all the details. Maybe if it is simplified to something like:
ALT1 ... that in a snowy NFL playoff game, the Green Bay Packers went from losing 14-0 to winning 42-20? (thanks to Epicgenius for suggesting the wording).
Of course, another editor can take a look. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
For future reviewers, I'm open to rewording, but I don't agree that "fumble" or "touchdown" are specialist terminology, similar to how "tackle" and "goal" are fairly well understood words in the English language, regardless of ones understanding of football/soccer. American football is an international sport with over 400 million followers across the world. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:45, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Suggesting another hook idea that keeps the use of touchdowns (which I agree is legible in English-speaking contexts) and makes it a bit easier for non-NFL fans: ALT2 ... that the Green Bay Packers won a snowy NFL playoff game by scoring six straight touchdowns after they had been losing 14–0? SounderBruce 05:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
SounderBruce, I am good with ALT2. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
SounderBruce were you completing a full review or just proposing another alt? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007: Will fully review now that I can spare some time; I had thought that proposing a new hook would make me ineligible to review, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Needs a direct citation, even if temporarily in the lead.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Just need a little citation to pass this. SounderBruce 01:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

SounderBruce, the article now says The Packers set a team playoff record with six consecutive touchdown drives, all of which occurred aftert the Packers were down 14–0; the previous record was four straight in 1983. and is cited to Ref 17. Does this satisfy your request? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Looks good to go then. SounderBruce 18:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC)