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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 15:21, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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Roy W. Ritner
Red Cross Captain Roy Ritner, 1918
... that during 35 days when he was acting governor of Oregon, state senator Roy W. Ritner (pictured) issued pardons and other forms of clemency to 74 state prisoners, 15 percent of the state's prison population?Source: The 21 October 1926 edition of the Heppner Gazette-Times article said: "Roy W. Ritner, as president of the State Seante, was acting Governor for 35 days in November and December and including January 1, 1923. During this time Mr. Ritner extended executive clemency to seventy-four inmates of the Oregon penitentiary … On November 1, 1922, there were 469 inmates in the state pen …" (74 is just over 15% of 469).
Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Roy W. Ritner; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Hi Orygun (talk), review follows: article created 10 September and exceeds minimum length; article is cited inline throughout to numerous sources, largely to local newspaper articles which in general I am happy to AGF are reliable; image used looks OK and is freely and properly licensed; a QPQ has been carried out; I only checked a very small proportion of the articles cited but found no issue with overly close paraphrasing. I have some issues with the hook, the number of interventions is stated in the article but not the prison population so the percentage cannot be determined, secondly the source for the numbers is a paid advertisement in the newspaper by Ritner's opponent in the election. Is there another source that can be used? - Dumelow (talk) 09:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Dumelow...The number of state prisoners is stated in second paragraph of the article which says: “On Nov. 1, 1922, there were 469 inmates of the state “pen” which had a capacity of 600.” 74 is just over 15% of 469. However, I can drop that part of the hook, if that’s your recommendation. Here’s an alternative that eliminates the last part of the hook.
ALT1 ... that during 35 days when he was acting governor of Oregon, state senator Roy W. Ritner (pictured) issued pardons and other forms of clemency to scores of state prisoners?
- The source above was published several years later the pardons when the numbers should have been firm and the source includes a breakout by category which appears to offer a complete count. Sources from the period when the pardons were happening changed daily as more pardons were approved. Afterwards that time, sources referred to “scores” or “hordes” of pardons without giving details. If the source is still in question, let me offer a completely different hook.
- ALT2 ... that during World War I, Roy W. Ritner (pictured) was elected without opposition to the Oregon State Senate while serving with the American Red Cross in France? Source: A Ritner biography published in 1922 says: “… while serving in France as a member of the Red Cross, Roy W. Ritner was nominated and elected a member of the state senate without opposition …”
- This hook might go better with the photo which shows Ritner in his Red Cross uniform. If either of these hooks needs further adjustments, please let me know.--Orygun (talk) 06:30, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
