Template:Did you know nominations/Lake Estancia

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 08:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Lake Estancia

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~~... that the former Lake Estancia recorded Pleistocene climate change in North America?~~

Reviewed:Teshio River

Moved to mainspace by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC).

Starting review, and waiting for QPQ note--Kev min § 15:10, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Article new enough and long enough, all paragraphs are cited to reliable and neutral sources. The hook is problematic, due to being a highly generalized statement about an entire highly technical section. Alt hooks are requested.--Kev min § 16:08, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
@Kevmin:Well, is it a problem if it's a generalized statement? I'll see to squeeze alt hooks and QPQ done this evening in between TV and C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 19:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
@Kevmin:Ok, Template:Did you know nominations/Teshio River is here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Eumerus Thanks for the QPQ, The current hook is so generalized its actually hard to verify with the article in some ways, plus its rather bland (as you noted with the Teshio River hook). The archaeology section has some interesting hook material.--Kev min § 16:24, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Mmm, there should be something in the sources about how Lake Estancia has been used as a proxy for the wider regional climate, I'll see if I can find anything. I don't think the archeology of the area is really the important aspwct of this paleolake. JoJo Eumerus mobile (main talk) 10:56, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kevmin:Perhaps something like:
~~... that the former Lake Estancia recorded Pleistocene climate change in North America, such as the formation of lakes during the last glacial maximum?~~

Might be longish. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 19:11, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Eumerus I may be missing it, but I can't find a cited supported statement in the article of Lake Estancia recording climate change in other lakes or recording the formation of other lakes?--Kev min § 14:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

It's supposed to be the paragraph beginning with Similarities have been noted between.... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Where in the paragraph does it say that though? That paragraph discusses coeval lakes that also experienced the climactic shifts, BUT does not say that Lake Estancia itself recorded the changes of other lakes, which how the hook reads.--Kev min § 18:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

I was sure there were some sources discussing that aspect, but seems not. So I'll try the following:

ALT2 ... that the former Lake Estancia in New Mexico reached a highstand during the last glacial maximum, similar to other lakes in the Great Basin?

With or without the last sentence, on the basis of #97 and the text from there in the article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:34, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Eumerus Ive done the same thing on a couple nominations over te years, I was convinced a fact was there and obvious, until the reviewer pointed out it wasnt, no worries at all.

Article new enough and long enough, all paragraphs are cited to reliable and neutral sources. Alt2 hook cited and verified to source. No copyviolation issues identified in the article. Looks good to go!--Kev min § 17:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)