Template:Did you know nominations/Great Dismal Swamp maroons

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Great Dismal Swamp maroons

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... <s>that thousands of escaped [[Slavery in the United States|slaves]], the '''[[Great Dismal Swamp maroons]]''' ''(pictured)'', settled in the marshlands of today's Virginia and North Carolina between the 17th century and 1865?</s>

Reviewed: Nosa Igiebor (journalist)
Comment: I rescued this article from the sandbox of PumpkinSky who is blocked, did you know? I thought it's too precious to wait there for an unblock. The CCI was completed, 719 of 729 articles in half a year found with no problems. Please also look at a pumpkin-coloured sky, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by PumpkinSky (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

A very nice article; thank you. Alarbus (talk) 14:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Moved from user page within five days of nom. New enough, long enough, no image issues. I like the second image better. I think that it show up better at small size (100 × 100px). It also depicts people actually living there rather than passing through. However, if you switch the two you will have to take the red linked name out of the caption.

I would like to suggest that you reword the first line: Rather than: "The Great Dismal Swamp maroons were maroons, escaped slaves..." just say "The Great Dismal Swamp maroons were escaped slaves..." Then wikilink "maroon" in the next place it is mentioned. I think that it will read better that way.

now that I have read the whole article I think it should say:"...escaped and freed slaves..."

Problem with hook: The 1700's are the 18th century. I suggest

<s>'''ALT 1''' ... that thousands of escaped [[Slavery in the United States|slaves]], the '''[[Great Dismal Swamp maroons]]''' ''(pictured)'', settled in the marshlands of [[Virginia]] and [[North Carolina]] from the early 1700's to 1865?</s> I see where it says ""possibly thousands of people lived in the swamp between the 1600s and 1860", however it says elsewhere that the maroons did not move there until about 1700. Those that were living there earlier could and probably were Native Americans, so I would stick with the 1700's as the first date.

Fascinating article, great save. And I think that second image will be great for the main page. --Ishtar456 (talk) 14:21, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Another problem with the hook: The escaped slaves did not join the freed slaves in the swamp until much later so I suggest:

ALT 2 ... that thousands of former slaves, the Great Dismal Swamp maroons (pictured), settled in the marshlands of Virginia and North Carolina from the early 1700s to 1865?

<s>::'''ALT 3''' ... that thousands of freed and escaped [[Slavery in the United States|slaves]], the '''[[Great Dismal Swamp maroons]]''' ''(pictured)'', settled in the marshlands of [[Virginia]] and [[North Carolina]] from the early 1700's to 1865?</s> --Ishtar456 (talk) 14:58, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

some copy editing should be done.

All the facts in all the ALTs are cited So just waiting your reply before okaying this great article.--Ishtar456 (talk) 15:08, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

note I did some minor copy editing and reworded one sentence. --Ishtar456 (talk) 15:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I like ALT2 best, both pics would look better if trimmed a bit, I think, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

- - NOTE to promoter: The second image (on the bottom of this page) should be used if cropped to enlarge features, but I am not good at that type of thing so I am request that someone who is please crop that image and add it to this nom. Thanks.--Ishtar456 (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Note to nom: please consider re-writing first sentence as suggested. Thanks.--Ishtar456 (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I took the apostrophe out of "1700s" where it appeared above as you don't put apostrophes in those, (common error though) but I also like Alt 2. Montanabw^(talk) 19:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I was asked to crop and here it is. If selected, ping me and I will sort out the protection and image redirecting issues. Materialscientist (talk) 04:18, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I just want to make clear that this is ready now, with cropped image.--Ishtar456 (talk) 11:28, 4 March 2012 (UTC)