Template:Did you know nominations/Gender disparities in health
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Tentinator 08:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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Gender disparities in health
edit- ... that a research survey on gender disparities in health found that 25.3% of all girls surveyed experienced some form of sexual abuse, a percentage that is 3 times higher that boys (8.7%)?
Created by Benongyx (talk). Self nominated at 07:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC).
Incredibly fascinating article but unfortunately it has a long ways to go before it meets DYK criteria. The most glaring on the several paragraphs and many significant claims that are not fully cited as well as the empty sections. While DYK doesn't expect a fully completed article, since it is being featured on the front page it shouldn't give the impression of being a work in progress either. I will be glad to keep an eye on this article and re-review it for DYK sake if the improvements are made but right now it has quite a bit to go. AgneCheese/Wine 23:09, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- The article has been fixed. You should link to the source for the hook at [1] and specify the page number. It'd be better to provide a more generalized hook.Smallman12q (talk) 12:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Offline reference for hook accepted in good faith. An online search of other sources doesn't seem to show any conflicting data that would put the veracity of the hook in question. Article passes all other DYK criteria (with one small citation fix which I'm sure will be done promptly) with no signs of close paraphrasing or plagiarism. Just for the sake of feedback, as I see this is a school project, I have a couple other minor suggestions for improving the article but none of these are major enough to hold up the DYK nom.
- In the Access to healthcare there is a claim (which I marked with a citation needed tag) that disparities are due to cultural norms. I'm not holding up the DYK nom over this because there are several other sources used in other sections that support similar claims (such as the WHO's Gender, women and health article currently FN#18). But I wasn't sure if there was originally another source in mind that specifically dealt with this in relationship to malaria--i.e. what compounded "cultural expectations" lead to women contracting malaria more often? The WHO/UNICEF African Malaria report (FN#17) is offline so it wasn't clear if that ref was meant to support this. If it was then the footnote just needs to be moved down a line.
- While not an absolute requirement, it is usual WP:MOS style to have the WP:LEADSENTENCE include the article title in bold. It is similarly useful to have the lead section define the topic which could be accomplish by merging the current Definition of health disparity section into the lead and reworking the first couple sentences.
- The image in the Other axes of oppression regarding uninsured children has a lot of white space and is very difficult to read. I would encourage cropping it or perhaps substituting with a different image.
- It was clear that considerable work and attention was given to this article and I was particularly impressed at the neutral tone and effort given to address disparities that affect males as well was females. Great job! AgneCheese/Wine 04:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
This article appears to contain very close or verbatim paraphrasing from multiple sources. Compare for example:
- "One of the reasons provided is that many health care systems pay insufficient attention to the differential needs of women and men in planning and providing health services. Moreover, the equitable utilization of health care by women is also strongly affected by other forms gender inequalities in society, which can influence whether women’s health needs and problems are properly acknowledged, and whether families are ready to invest equally in the health of girls and women. Some of these gender inequalities include unequal restrictions on physical mobility, unequal control over financial resources, and unequal decision making" (article)
- "One reason is that many health care systems pay insufficient attention to the differential needs of women and men in planning and providing health services. Another reason is that equitable utilization of health care by women is strongly affected by gender inequalities in society that determine whether women’s health needs and problems are properly acknowledged, and whether families are ready to invest equally in the health of girls and women. It is also affected by unequal restrictions on physical mobility, unequal control over financial resources, and unequal decision making" (source, page 78)
- "The distinct roles and behaviors of men and women in a given culture, dictated by that culture's gender norms and values, give rise to gender differences. Certain gender norms and values, however, also give rise to gender inequalities, where differences between men and women systematically empower one group to the detriment of the other. Both gender differences and gender inequalities can give rise to inequities between men and women in health status and access to health care" (article)
- "The distinct roles and behaviors of men and women in a given culture, dictated by that culture's gender norms and values, give rise to gender differences....Gender norms and values, however, also give rise to gender inequalities - that is, differences between men and women which systematically empower one group to the detriment of the other... Both gender differences and gender inequalities can give rise to inequities between men and women in health status and access to health care." (source)
- "This is because women and girls are regarded as socially inferior in many developing societies. In these regions, behavioral norms, codes of conduct, and laws that are male-favoring often perpetuate the subjugation of females and condone violence against them. These unequal power relations and gendered norms relegates women into positions where they are not only more likely to be of poorer health, but also receive weaker access to and control over health resources as compared to men, both within families and beyond" (article)
- "In many countries and societies women and girls are treated as socially inferior. Behavioural and other social norms, codes of conduct and laws perpetuate the subjugation of females and condone violence against them. Unequal power relations and gendered norms and values translate into differential access to and control over health resources, both within families and beyond" (source, page 25)
There are also a significant number of offline sources, complicating dealing with this issue. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:38, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
- It's getting there. Close, but no sigar. The "distinct roles" close paraphrasing is still in the article, but none of the provided sources are offline anymore.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 16:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Note: The nominator has removed this template from the T:TDYK page, and has attempted to speedy delete this page, which was reverted by an admin. I have requested that Benongyx post here to indicate what is wished to be done: if the nomination is being withdrawn, as seems to be desired, we can do that, but it needs to be done on our end, and involves this template page, so it can't be deleted. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)