Talk:Zoë Tryon

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19740501 https://alchetron.com/Zoe-Tryon

• Zoë Tryon (born 1 May 1974)

19771207 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/46453758/4791660#

• Zoe, 3 1/2, appears in in Australian Womans Weekly, holding mother Lady Tryon aka Kanga's, hands

19811202 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51585700/4404893

• Zoe appears in women's weekly with Lord and Lady Tryon plus siblings

19920600 https://www.crazyaboutmagazines.com/ourshop/prod_580959-British-Harpers-Queen-magazine-June-1992-Victoria-Spencer-and-Kitty-Spencer-cover.html

• British Harpers & Queen magazine - June 1992 WHERE THE GIRLS ARE: At every one of the Season's events this summer there will be one girl who, in the grand tradition, will steal the show

19951015 https://www.tatler.com/gallery/zoe-tryons-21st

• Tatler Article and photos of Zoe 21st birthday, where, since she saw the film Dangerous Liasons, the Hon Zoë Tryon has longed to recreate the era. She realised her wish for her 21st birthday at her home in Wiltshire, but confused the centuries with jazz and techno music.

19971118 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/obituary-lady-tryon-1294801.html Percy Savage, Independent, Obituary: Lady Tryon

• 198XXXXX: Australian dress designer Dale Tryon was both a colourful figure in royal court circles and a vibrant and successful businesswoman in the treacherous waters of the international fashion world. From the early 1980s her clothes were sold in shops from England to America to Australia, France and Spain, and her own boutique in Knightsbridge was later joined by branches in Salisbury, Hong Kong and Dublin .. ie Kanga label and shop

1998XXXX https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Lady+Kanga%27s+pounds+500%2C000+revenge+on+her+husband.-a060650074

• 1997 Lady Tryon, who was 49 when she died from blood poisoning November 1997, made it clear that she wanted everything she had to go to their four children - Zoe, now 23, Charles, 21, and 18-year-old twins Edward and Victoria. The move cost almost pounds 500,000 in tax on her pounds 1.3million estate. Named among her possessions is the-then marital home home, Ogbury House in the Wiltshire village of Great Durnford.
• 1996 Lady Tryon was confined to a wheelchair following a mystery fall from the window of a clinic in 1996. And last June she was arrested and detained under the Mental Health Act after bizarre incidents outside the manor house.

2002XXXX

• Zoe's from Manor House School, last time I heard from her was 2002 in Sydney, and I've been trying to get back in touch with her. Could you give me her email? My e-mail is 'diane.langlume

2006XXXX https://www.zoetryon.com/about-zo

• since 2006 when she first began living with the Achuar Tribe in the Amazon. Since then Zoe has lived and worked with the Achuar, Shuar, Kichwa, Sapara and Waorani peoples across Ecuador.

20060730 http://petrolcase.blogspot.com/2006/07/no-sleep.html

• JAKE'S ADVENTURES the other night i had dinner with Zoe Tryon; steve's ex girlfriend. i havent seen her for like 7 years or somthing. so i turn up to her fantastic apartment and meet some very nice people, including Zoe's sibblings. we had a wonderful dinner and i had a great chat with her brother

200610XX https://www.crazyaboutmagazines.com/ourshop/prod_238199-Hello-magazine-Madonna-cover-24-October-2006-Issue-941.html

• Hello! magazine - 24 October 2006 - Issue 941 ZOE TRYON Shows her mother's spirited character as she fights to save the rainforests

3 pages

20070821 https://www.treehugger.com/culture/the-th-interview-zoe-tryon-anthropologist-and-all-round-amazonian-woman.html The TH Interview: Zoe Tryon - Anthropologist and All-round Amazonian Woman Leonora Oppenheim

• met Bill and Lynne Twist. They were taking an Ecuador trip, a transformational journey, and so I quit my job in London and went with them. Then I went to live with Lynne and Bill and worked on their fundraising Luncheon for 1200 people. We raised 1.325 million dollars.
• 200708XX worked for the Pachamama Alliance at the Kapawi Eco-Lodge in Equador .. 2 months in the states and 5 months down here living in Achuar territory
• 200708xx working on the transference process of the Kapawi Eco-Lodge. It's going back into their hands in December
• 200708XX teaching English and training the staff at a number of different levels.
• 2007XXXX went to live with a family for a month to understand what the life is like of an Achuar person. How can I help them or have any useful input if I don't understand where they are coming from? That was total immersion
• 2007 guided David de Rothschild's Mission Toxico team into Achuar territory because on this trip (with David De Rothschild) saw what's happened (in northern Ecuador). That's the future of Achuar if something isn't done.
• accompanied Daryl Hannah on her 'Toxic Tour' with Amazon Watch

Regarding Kapawi Lodge

• is the brainchild of a man called Daniel Kouperman who wanted to come up with a way for the Achuar to earn money without resorting to oil drilling or logging and he came up with the eco-lodge idea.
• had to go round and visit all 63 Achuar communities to get their approval. When they all said yes he presented his idea to a very wealthy businessman friend who agreed to put millions into the project.
• 1997 built the lodge completely in Achuar style, no nails, all wood, around a lagoon. It has solar panels and a generator for when it's very cloudy. I think 75% of Kapawi's energy runs off solar.
• very remote, you can only get in by plane on a mud landing strip. If it rains then it's impossible to come in or leave — which adds to the adventure.
• 2007 A travel company called Canodros is running it. The agreement was that they would run it on Achuar land for 15 years and then give it back to the Achuar people, but sadly the owner of the company has now passed away and his sons didn't share his vision for Kapawi as it wasn't making much money. So they've decided to give it back after 10 years and unfortunately they haven't been doing what was planned, training people or looking after the employees in the way that we would like to see them looked after.

20071224 https://www.firstgiving.com/fundraiser/zoe-tryon/zoetryon

• Zoe's 1097 km walk for Yasuni [1]
• Tryon walked 1097 km alone through Spain, raising money for the people of the Amazon.

20080412 https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/catwalk-closed-to-the-kittens-20080412-gds971.html

• The Sydney Morning Herald: Miller has spoken to Kanga's daughter, Zoe Tryon, an old chum of Erica Packer. Zoe, who is in South America, was reluctant to "air any dirty laundry".

In the years before she died Kanga descended into a booze-fuelled world of drugs and fantasy before dying at just 49 of septicaemia. At the time Zoe told Hello! magazine that Kanga had been sectioned under the Mental Health Act for her own safety and lived in "blissful fantasy land".

20080606 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-1023706/Zo-Tryon--8216-A-shaman-told-life-8217-s-path-walk-worlds-8217.html

• 1974 father, the former banker Lord Anthony Tryon
• 1974 eldest child of the late Lady Dale ‘Kanga’ Tryon
• 1976 younger brother she is referring to, Charles (named after his godfather)
• 1980 the youngest Tryon siblings, twins Victoria and Edward
• grew up in Wiltshire at the family seat, the Queen Anne mansion [2] at Great Durnford near Salisbury, plus its 750 acres
• 1997 mother died of septicaemia in 1997 when Zoë was 23 .. ahw spent the last four months of her mother's life with her looking for a cure in India
• 2003 from living in Sydney Zoë returns to London. Attended and inspired a international environmental conference, called Be The Change
• went to San Francisco, where Zoe met influential American fundraiser Lynne Twist employed her for her charity the Pachamama Alliance,
• Zoë was introduced to the Achuar president Kistupa Paes, who invited her to live alongside his people in Ecuador.
• at Kapawi ecolodge [3]. ‘Initially Zoe helped with the local English language programme. It was me and 32 men .. From the lodge Zoë moved to an Achuar community and to a hut with a roof but no walls where the only contact with the outside world was a radio that kept breaking down
• 2008 working in the Pachamama office in Quito, where she spends most of her time
• 2008 full-time role raising awareness of the exploitation of the Amazon rainforest and its indigenous peoples and in running eco-tourism trips in Ecuador. Primarily based in the capital Quito, tours the Valley of the Volcanoe, ecolodge called Kapawi owned entirely by the Achuar ..quote "the Achuar president .. regards Zoë as his people’s ambassador: ‘She is our mother and our sister. We want her to prick the conscience of the world and awaken them to the importance of the rainforest and its people.’"

20080808 https://amazonwatch.org/news/2008/0808-amazonian-chernobyl--ecuadors-oil-environment-disaster

• Amazonian Chernobyl - Ecuador's oil environment disaster AUGUST 8, 2008CLARE KENDALLTELEGRAPH UK
• see also http://ecuador-rising.blogspot.com/2008/08/amazonian-chernobyl-ecuadors-oil.html

20080924 http://agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/34T_2008_Forest_Protection_Ecuador_Guardian_September_24_2008.pdf

• Environmental campaigner Zoe Tryon, of the Pachamama Alliance, which has worked closely with Ecuador's assembly, claims that the proposed new laws will make Ecuador's constitution "the most progressive in the world", and argues that such laws will prevent this situation from arising again. "It's too late for the Chevron case, but it will be an effective deterrent for similar operations," she says

200X to Present https://amazonwatch.org/about/staff-and-board

• Ambassador to Amazon Watch

201007XX https://kelleelaser.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/07/images-going-international-yikes-.html -Smeltcher, Laurent 'amazon Woman' Sydney Allumni Magazine July 2010

• Mother: Lady Dale Tryon
• 2005 Bachelor of arts University of Sydney including anthropology
• 2005 US environmental activist and fund raiser Lynn Twist [4] recruits Zoe to Pachamama Alliance [5], where she sells some shares, travels to South America first time and assists raise $1.25 million
• 200xxxxx Tryon asked and agrees to go back to work with the Achuar (population approx 6000 people]], who are remote, without road access, on the Amazon forests along the border between Ecuador and Peru, whose waters have been spoiled by 'big oil', ie Texaco; who have been living with the impacts of big oil spoiling their waters [note Tryon's Clearwater project],
• 200xxxxx Tryon works for, then becomes an ambassador for Amazon Watch, promoting the case and cause of the Achauar were part of a 30 000 legal class action counselled by Ecuadorian lawyer Pablo Fajardo
• 2007xxxx - 2010xxxx Tryon launches 'Toxi Tours' leading groups of filmakers, journalists, and socially/envirionmentally aware celebrities including Daryl Hannah, James Cameron and ors to see the extent of the big oil devestation, also visiting the lawyers working on the court case and visit some of the 935 open toxic waster pits .. 'Saving the Rainforest' one Toxic Tour at a Time

20100421 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1949-8535.2009.tb00059.x

• Amazonian Oil Exploration: Contradictions in Culture and Environment

20110108 http://theamazonpost.com/chevron-ecuador/wp-content/uploads/DONZS00004732.pdf

• In email correspondence produced pursuant to a court-ordered subpoena, Ms. Tryon told the plaintiffs’ lead U.S. lawyer, Steven Donziger [6], that she had approached Channel 7 reporter Mike Munro to do the story because he was a “great friend” of her family, and that she could “vouch for [Munro and his producer] completely.”
• 2011 .. Was in Australia, speaking to a news show called Sunday Night .. approached ex-60 minutes reporter Mike Munro .. who expressed wish to produce harder hitting piece than US 60 minutes piece on big oil case against Chevron in Mexico
• 1986 .. Mike Munro did 60 minutes pied on Zoe's mother and become frineds

20110307 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1363455/Lady-Kanga-Tryon-s-daughter-Victoria-mother-s-obsession-Prince-Charles.html Mention in Mummy was called mad. She committed the cardinal sin of talking about Prince Charles': Lady Kanga Tryon’s daughter on her mother’s obsession By ALEXIS PARR FOR MAILONLINE UPDATED: 19:44 AEDT, 7 March 2011

20110307 http://theamazonpost.com/chevron-ecuador/wp-content/uploads/DONZS00004732.pdf

• Channel 7 Mike Munro and film crew to be in Ecuador 7th - 10th March inclusive in Lago etc. They will rest for a day in Quito before and then they are going to go and do a little filming in Sarayacu. They will also be interviewing me as they need an Australian connection for the piece .. ie Zoe toxic tour plus interviews/story..

20110404 http://theamazonpost.com/chevron-ecuador/wp-content/uploads/Ltr-to-Mike-Munro.pdf Chevron Letter to Mike Munro

• notes the 'toxic tour' by Zoe Tryon is misleading in support of 'fraudualant' Lago Agrio plaintiff's lawyers, taking film crew to two sites that were outside the Texaco responsibility, where primary responsibility was with Equador's own company

20110411 http://www.counterspill.org/article/zo%C3%AB-tryon-joins-intervention Carly Gillis writes Zoe Tryon joins the intervention

• the settlement amount is much, much less than what was originally demanded. It started at $23 billion, and another independent analyst said something like $120 billion. And when the $8 billion [actual judgement amount] is compared to what Chevron makes in a year, it’s a pittance, really. But what they’re trying to do is just create a precedent about big oil and introduce some accountability back into the system
• Well anthropology is what brought me down here to Ecuador and Peru in the first place, so I’m mostly interested in how culture and the people’s environment is intertwined. They learn from their surroundings -- and their environment is being destroyed. Everything relates to the environment in which they live. Without it, there’s no culture.
• There needs to be a huge clean up of existing damage -- to clean up oil and formation waters, and re-mediate old pits. Access routes [should be] closed to prevent further incursions into the forest...We were really excited about the current president, because he had some great ideas regarding human rights. However, he had a big job ahead of him and now it’s four years later and he’s selling off oil blocks [to oil companies] which is just not what we’ve hoped for. There’s a need for human rights policy but we’re doing much better than others. In comparison to Peru
• 2011 I am also working with Achuar in the south central Amazon region, who with the Shuar, Kichwa, Andoa, and Zapara people are facing KNOC -- Korea’s national oil company .. they were to start [looking for oil] on April 15 but that has been postponed until October, so we need to pressure the government hard until then. I am very close to the Achuat particularly and so I will be working very hard with them to ensure that no oil development occurs in their lands in Ecuador.

20111009 https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/191075399?q=%22Zo%C3%AB+Tryon%22&c=music&versionId=208369054 also https://amazonwatch.org/news/2011/1009-the-amazons-toxic-mess

• 1 streaming video file (14 min.) "Bad Oil" Channel 7 Sunday Night, reporter Mike Munro p Looks at the growing environmental disaster in the Ecuadorian Amazon where Chevron, one of the world's largest oil drilling companies, is destroying rainforest, contaminating waterways and poisoning families. Zoë Tryon, the daughter of the late Lady 'Kanga' Tryon, is campaigning against Chevron
• See link to the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auam076aROM&t=42s

From live video Bad Oil

• 8 billion battle
• chevron vs zoe chevron daughter of melbourne fashion designer Kanga Tryon, from equador, Mike Munro
• children in Ecuador drawing, headwaters contiminated decades, Zoe digs beneath the surface, crude
• Zoe is one woman determined to make the big oil companies pay for what has been done ,, and environmental disaster chevron washing hands of
• chevron fighting hardball to avoid paying billions to fix environmental catastrophe
• north eastern ecaudor, rivers feed the amazon river .. 1960's texaco moved in together with equadors national oil company
• liters of toxic waste dumped in 956 open waste pits left by the oil company leaching into water
• translates ,, 'where are now living impossible life, no water to drink, bath in, and children so much illness here
• anthropologist, aristocrat, activist
• 2006 Zoe vowed to take the case to the world, exposing the toxic waste left during the extraction .. big lakes of crude oil up to 3m deep
• mercedes and marcedes parents bought rehabilitated land when she was a girl, covered with logs and dirt, dig down
• blame oil for defects, cancers etc .. for example mercedes skin condition
• Emergildo Criollo, Cofan leader, sons died from water, once 5000 now 400 ..
• Zoe Tryon 'anthropologist'
• 18 year long court battle to determine who will pay
• 1993 Kofan and others filed a lawsuit .. against Texiuco in the ustates, seeking compensation .. texaco/chevron moved case to Equador
• 2011 Equador court rejects argument chevron can not be held responsible, chevron found responsible for cleaning up mess to tune of 8.6 billion
• flied 200 km south to community that resisted and continues to resist big oil, village of saraku, gitchwa territory, heart of the amazon

20111010 http://theamazonpost.com/httpbit-lyrhcpme/ Chevron Responds to Channel 7’s “Sunday Night” Story on Lawsuit

Channel 7 story solicited by Zoe Tryon, activitst associated with lawyers suing chevron

20121016 http://www.ecocitizenaustralia.com.au/amazonian-activist-zoe-tryon/ Australia EcoCitzen Tracey Hordern 'Amazonian activist Zoe Tryon'

• 20XXXXXX University of Manchester degree ,, anthropology University of Sydney
• 201210XX goal now is to help raise $50,000 for the Clearwater project that is providing clean water for those affected by the Texaco/Chevron contamination. “After an 18-year law suit the indigenous people and the colonists won against the oil giant, but Chevron are refusing to pay to clear the more than 950 unlined pits full of oil and waste products which have been leaching into waterways for decades. Now the people are taking matters into their own hands and have created Clearwater..
• 2012XXXX campaigning strongly against future oil concessions in Ecuador. “The people are clear that they are not interested in any oil development in their ancestral territory but the human rights violations have already started in the area”

20121023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18zrWfZy9KM

• World Traveler Zoe Tryon joins Judah Friedman and special co-host Elisa Hallerman from HalleyLife.com for KLEAN Radio

20131202 http://www.boemagazine.com/2013/12/zoe-tryon-talks-ecuador-the-environment-the-future/ BOE Magazine_OE TRYON TALKS ECUADOR, THE ENVIRONMENT & THE FUTURE

• " A roving ambassador for indigenous rights and the Amazon Rainforest, Zoe Tryon is an activist, writer, speaker, guide, photographer and Founder of One of the Tribe, a non-profit organisation dedicated to protecting tribal lands and culture in Ecuador. Her passion for the Amazon, its inhabitants and custodians, and her commitment to tribe-driven sustainable development has garnered international acclaim and partnerships with Amazon Watch, Fundacion Pachamama"
• Childhood: My father was a land owner so I was very lucky to grow up with nature on my doorstep and my father teaching me about custodianship of the land, which had been in our family for generations .. also as I child I always had a deep connection with nature and animals. My playground was the woods behind our house…We had dogs, horses, chickens and I always had a menagerie of pets from a Green Amazon parrot to a boa constrictor. So I guess I fell in love with the natural world
• Heroes: my father’s mother travelled around the world alone between the First and Second World Wars. She was the first woman to play polo in Iran and got up to all sorts of adventures around the world – a real inspiration .... also heroes like Jane Goodall, Vandana Shiva, John Seed, Julia Butterfly Hill, the late Becky Tarbotton, all incredible activists and environmentalists. The indigenous people that I have the honour to work with, heroes on the ground, their world views, custodianship of their ancestral lands, their spirituality – never cease to inspire me. Seeing their resilience, love and respect in the face of incredible hardship and injustice is just awe-inspiring
• Inspiration: most exciting thing for me is when change happens as a result of advocacy or action, seeing people ‘wake up’. When an oil company chooses to leave indigenous ancestral lands, after indigenous resistance, Talisman and Oxydental petroleum in Peru, or a court rules in favour of the custodians of the land – the case of the people of Sarayacu V the Ecuadorian state in the InterAmerican Court of human rights. A huge one was the inclusion of the Rights of Nature in the Ecuadorian constitution,
• 201308XX Lifestyle: Moving between worlds in August for example, I woke before dawn one morning in the heart of the Amazon, a week’s walk from the nearest road with the Zapara people… we drank tea around the fire, huddled together speaking of our dreams, I bathed in the river with the children and packed my bags as I heard the plane overhead, racing along the river bank and then wading through a river with my pack, a machete and a child on my back, and then leapt into the plane, emptying the water out of my wellington boots. Then came a flight over the forest in a small plane, a 5 hour car ride up into the Andes, another flight on the big plane, after which I hired a car and raced into a nail salon to get a pedicure in Beverly Hills – apologetic for the Amazon mud still between my toes! And then dinner at Chateau Marmont! (of course a quick shower before it!) I have a deeper appreciation for each world I move in, and really enjoy the gifts of each
• 2014XXXX? I am developing a TV series about indigenous peoples, I am working on an expedition for 2014 where I will walk for 310 miles along an oil pipeline through hugely variable ecosystems to raise money for a water project in the northern Ecuadorian Amazon – an area the size of Rhode Island contaminated by ChevronTexaco, 30,000 people are drinking and bathing in contaminated water, the rates of cancer, miscarriages, horrific skin issues are enormous. The ClearWater project is an initiative of the indigenous people in the area and I am really excited to be able to support them in their vision of rebuilding their health and the health of the land.

20160216 https://cocoecomag.com/2016/02/24/warrior-women-the-jungle-goddess/

• Daughter of British aristocracy, Lord and Lady Tryon, she was raised in a sprawling estate in the British countryside
• 2006XXXX Zoe introduced to the President of the Achuar indigenous peoples
• 2006XXXX booked one way ticket to Equadorian Amazon to live with and teach English to the Achuar leaders
• 2016XXXX leading guided trips to remote areas of the Amazon for filmmakers, activists and numerous celebrities, as she inspires and educates with her passion for saving this vital organ in Earth’s eco-system
• 2016XXXX ambassador for Amazon watch
• 2016XXXX spokesperson and champion for Clearwater

20171018 https://figue.com/blogs/world-of-figue/zoe-tryon Figue: Global Gypsy

• activist, explorer and founder of One of the Tribe, an international non-profit organization dedicated to the protection of indigenous cultures, Zoe certainly walks the talk. She has lived in more places than most have visited, including London, Sydney, Los Angeles, New York, Delhi and Florence, only to name a few, not to mention the jungle frontier towns of the Amazon, where she spends six months at a time immersed in the local tribes. Her passion for the jungle and its inhabitants have become her life’s work

20180000 https://www.zoetryon.com/about-zo/

• has acted as a cultural liaison between indigenous and Western leaders since 2006 when she first began living with the Achuar Tribe in the Amazon. Since then Zoe has lived and worked with the Achuar, Shuar, Kichwa, Sapara and Waorani peoples across Ecuador. She has supported education, health and economic capacity building projects, advocated for environmental and constitutional rights, and worked closely with indigenous partners on the largest environmental lawsuit in history.

Bruceanthro (talk) 22:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

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Zoë Tryon
Born	1974 (age 49–50) London
Nationality	British
Other names	Hon. Zoë Tryon
Occupation(s)	Ambassador for Amazon Watch, for the Achuar People, and other Amazonian indigenous Peoples in Ecuador
Years active	2006 to present
Known for	Eldest child of Lord and Lady 'Kanga' Tryon. Eco-Artitocrat promoting and arranging 'Toxic Tours' into Ecuadorian Amazon
Notable work	Arranged[7] & featured in Australian Channel 7 Sunday Night Equadorian Amazon 'Bad Oil' (9 October 2011) exposé [8]

Bruceanthro (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Daily Mail

The Daily Mail is not a usable source for a biography of a living person in Wikipedia, per WP:DAILYMAIL. Per the letter of WP:BLP, these refs and the claims associated with them should simply be removed. Are there knowledgeable editors who can patch around the removal of the unusable source instead? cc bruceanthro - David Gerard (talk) 21:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

hello David Gerard (talk), where the Daily Mail articles were not relied upon for notability, yet recorded life details not available from elsewhere/ for which there were no other references .. I in fact made an effort to contact via email and skype .. and to get the person/subject Zoë Tryon to review that article ...successfully confirming the content and the accuracy of the content as used .. (now thinking some kind of accuracy confirmation form to be able to be signed and sent into wikipedia desk somewhere might be useful for dealing with situation and circumstances of this kind? Bruceanthro (talk) 07:42, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

That would be literally original research, which we don't do here ... we only have what the Reliable Sources say. So how patchable-around are the DM stuff? Cos those cites do need to go - David Gerard (talk) 17:22, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

I will have a look through the article to see what will be left standing once details obtained from the Daily Mail have been removed ... though would love your advice on how and where to refer a case where an article contains significant verifiable biographical details obtained from publicly published source/s [ie was not original research] the accuracy of which is only, almost accidently, brought into doubt by generic decision by editors deeming the published source/s unreliable? It is likely large swath of materials/biographical details in other articles have been accidentally and unilaterally brought into doubt, likely to be removed from wikipedia, regardless of actual accuracy?? IE I would love your advice on where and how to put up for discussion a proposition for a potentially useful exception to the original research rule where the research was not strictly original and editors are already used to monitoring and verifying living copyright holders permissions to use images/ photos for articles and could do something similar around biographical details of living people maybe?? Bruceanthro (talk) 06:54, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Just tagged the DM usages - probably easier to gently excise than I first thought - David Gerard (talk) 22:59, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

OK, removed all the tagged references excepting 2 where the article asserts the subject/ Zoe Tryon features in a number of identified Newspapers including the Daily Mail and the references serve only to point readers to Daily Mail articles in which Zoe appears ... cheers Bruceanthro (talk) 14:54, 29 November 2019 (UTC)