Talk:Yiannis Boutaris

Yannis Boutaris is not ethnic Greek

Mr. Boutaris is a Greek citizen but he doesn't personally consider his ethnic root Hellenic like most Greeks Vlachs do. He is a Greek citizen but cannot be counted as ethnic Greek for this reason (the context of his Greekness is a national passport not ethnicity). His party Drasi is also on record making anti-Hellenic statements (including other Drasi members like Nick Dimou who also do not consider themselves Hellenic and have a long track record of making anti-Hellenic statements) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.117.189.41 (talk) 20:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

This is a highly dubious and unsubstantiated statement, which has aparently been used to vandalise what is supposed to be a biographical page. Drasi is certainly not an "anti-Hellenic" party, whatever this might mean to the above contributor. It seems the intention is to somehow demonstrate that Thessalonians have voted for an anti-Greek non-(ethnic)Greek person to represent them as Mayor, for what reason is not entirely clear, though it does smack of fairly typical balkan nationalist trolling. The fact that Boutaris is of Vlach origin and that some Drasi members hold liberal views regarding the Jews and Turks of Thessaloniki do not make the party - and by extension him - anti-Hellenic. Many Greeks share these views (whether they are "ethnic" or not and irrespective of what passport they hold).Epirotes1 (talk) 16:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

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Yiannis Boutaris :“I don’t give a shit if he (Kemal Attaturk) killed or not Greeks or whatever.”

Seems to be one of his many statements that has not only enraged many 'Ultra Nationalists' but also many normal citizens. Should we include it or hide it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA6nLwugLlk Reaper7 (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Obviously it has to be included for context if one wants the recent assault to be in the article. An editor (with some connections to Macedonian nationalism) repeatedly removed it. I put it in with a citation and the editor moved the quote to a footnote but kept the citation while writing on my talk page that I was not using a reliable source. He also changed the quote to "I don't care" - I guess translating back from the more polite Greek translation, which you are not allowed to do with a quote. So the typical Wikipedia scenario is playing out - we can only quote from CNN and BBC when it suits certain ideologists who have become Wikipedia editors and these "reliable sources" can skew the context of the situation. 194.228.32.36 (talk) 08:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

If they guy illegally blocking the edit has links as you say to Macedonian Nationalism - I am out. Those guys own wiki, pointless to go up against them. Reaper7 (talk) 23:07, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

I restored Shit from asterisks Zezen (talk) 12:43, 28 June 2019 (UTC)