Talk:Yane Sandanski

Latest comment: 4 days ago by StephenMacky1 in topic Removed sentence


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Hello Jingiby. I think the sentence sufficiently explained why the idea of the politician was wrong so I do not see what is undue here, plus it is reliably sourced. The Cold War era was controversial but that does not mean it cannot be covered. StephenMacky1 (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ok, but even for me is not clearly understandable. Jingiby (talk) 04:52, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Here is a quote from the source, everything about Poptomov from the cited page: Poptomov is of the opinion that the IMRO and the Ilinden Uprising purported to ‘political autonomy of Macedonia’, and surprisingly not to national independence, while the BCP suffered in the struggle for self-determination for the Macedonian people. Referring to the central figures of the IMRO, Deltsev and Santanski, Poptomov says that they were ‘sons of the Macedonian narod’, whereas they held the progressive and liberation ideas of Bulgaria and spoke and wrote only in Bulgarian. He considers the Macedonian population of Pirin to be very close and bound to the Bulgarian nation. I think the second part of the sentence about the progressive and liberation ideas is an observation from Sygkelos. Having access to Poptomov's 1948 source could have given more context but I do not think it hurts to have more context about what Bulgaria and Yugoslavia did in this period. StephenMacky1 (talk) 15:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
What I find on the subject is a book under the title "A Cry in the Dream". Materials about Vladimir Poptomov's resistance against Macedonianization in the Pirin region (1944-1949). It was collected by the historian Veselin Angelov. See here. Sandanski and Delchev are mentioned several times. Jingiby (talk) 15:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
All right. I could not find an excerpt from the 1948 source Talk about the Macedonian Ilinden Uprising in 1903 on the occasion of its 45 Anniversary (Доклад за Македонското Илинденско Въстание в 1903 г. по случай 45–годишнината му) though, which is the one cited in Sygkelos' book. I understand better now how it might be undue though so I will not mind if the sentence gets retracted. StephenMacky1 (talk) 16:37, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
StephenMacky1, check Macdermott's book on Sandanski. On p. 42 is clearly explained the case with his activity as a Radoslavov's party member. Jingiby (talk) 12:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
She does not confirm it because she wrote: The indications are that, at this stage, he must have been an active supporter of the Radoslavov Liberal Party, which, following the fall of the Stoïlov Government in January 1899, became the leading force in a new coalition Government. Anyway her book is from 1988 so I do not expect everything to be up to date. StephenMacky1 (talk) 12:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply