Talk:Western Syria clashes (December 2024–present)
Latest comment: 1 day ago by Shadowwarrior8 in topic Requested move 27 December 2024
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Requested move 27 December 2024
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Western Syria clashes (December 2024–present) → Ba'athist insurgency in Syria (December 2024–present) — 178.81.55.110 (talk) 10:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The date is redundant, but it would definitely be an improvement The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 05:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Support changing the page title to "Ba'athist insurgency in Western Syria (December 2024-present)", which is more precise. Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 08:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)- Support changing the page title to Assad loyalist insurgency in Syria (December 2024–present) per RS.[1][2][3][4] Most sources describe the insurgents as "Assad loyalists" rather than "Ba'athists". Skitash (talk) 16:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- OpposeThe clashes had just started and you’re calling it a full blown insurgency? You must include sources that call it such 78.182.139.241 (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support the nomination Waleed (talk) 03:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support--Hoben7599 (talk) 12:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Is a disambiguator even necessary? Why not just Ba'athist insurgency in Syria? Charles Essie (talk) 14:49, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Wait until it became clear whether this will escalate into a real insurgency, or will remain limited to a kind of mop up operation against the remnants of the former regime. If it does escalate, I will support moving to Ba'athist insurgency in Syria. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 17:54, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the proposed title, since it is imprecise and inaccurate. The unrest is limited to parts of Alawite-dominated Western Syrian regions, which were once strongholds of Assad loyalists.
- Also, as Skitash pointed out earlier, news reports and sources are describing it as "Assad loyalist" or "Assadist" attacks and riots.
- Moreover, the Syrian Ba'ath party itself is inactive following the fall of the Assad regime. Additionally, several news reports have stated that the neo-ba'athist organizations are structurally collapsing across Syria.
- Therefore, these attacks are more related to those neo-Ba'athist armed factions which went rogue after the fall of Assad regime.
- Hence, the page title should be moved to "Assadist insurgency in Western Syria (December 2024-present)" or "Assad loyalist insurgency in Western Syria (December 2024-present)", which is precise. Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 03:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC)