Talk:Welfare (disambiguation)
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editCould this be merged with Social welfare? -- Zoe
Isn't the "productive/unproductive" comment a little contentious? A working man with a low wage may be more "productive" than a man living off inherited wealth. Exile
Just to clarify that comment - not all welfare payments go to the unemployed.
Also, some welfare is "in kind" eg free health care and education. In the UK, the majority of the population both pays taxes and receives welfare. Also, most people in the UK, regardless of circumstances, will be net gainers from the welfare system when in childhood, in old age and in periods of illness and unemployment, and will be net losers during periods of paid employment. Welfare acts as a kind of socialised insurance scheme. So, to characterise welfare as a payment from the productive to the unproductive deserves deletion, or at least putting in quotes, I feel. Exile
Don't forget childcare, at least in the US. Hyacinth 04:12, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Currently, the Further Reading section occupies a full half of the article! Perhaps some trimming is required? -- Mihnea Tudoreanu 14:10, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
article split
editI thought I would split the article welfare into welfare (disambiguation) and welfare (financial aid). The reason is that I thought the description of different possible things that welfare could mean was beginning to get a bit long, and that welfare as financial aid is a big enough subject area to deserve a separate article to general welfare.
Okay I know there's already the Social Security (United States) - but I think that a separate article about welfare can be expanded to compare different welfare and financial aid systems in different countries - or, rather, the things in other countries that might be called welfare in the US.
However - admittedly I didn't look at the list of articles that link to welfare before making the split. And there's loads of them. Checking the relevancy of all the links and editing them will be a lot of work. I've changed a handful already but before doing lots of them, I want to get some feedback to see if people think this is a good idea, or if we should just go back to the single article we had before. Thanks. Squashy 23:15, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oh yeah - the original article at welfare has got a very long edit history. By rights I should have moved that over here - I realise that now but didn't at the time. Whoops. Sorry. Course, I've also created a talk page here, so I can't do it myself now. So I shall be requesting a administrator manual move of the welfare history to here. Squashy 10:04, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Requested move 19 December 2024
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Welfare (disambiguation) → Welfare – Not at all clear to me that "welfare spending" is the primary topic for "welfare". – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose due to long-term significance. “Welfare” is shorthand for welfare spending and what it is known as. Theparties (talk) 05:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)