Talk:Viriamo

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Viriamo, c.1919

• ... that Viriamo's (pictured) traditional Rapa Nui tattoos included motifs similar to an adze and a paddle?

• Source: Adze: "Like Eva (and Uaritaï), she has a tattoo on her cheek in a geometric, adze-like motif and parallel stripes crossing her forehead, below which are dots. She also has “elaborate designs on her body” (Métraux 1940, 240). These match those sketched on shipboard by J. Linton Palmer in 1853 and depicted by Julien Viaud on the “chefesse.” [download] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362024307_The_Iconic_Tattooed_Man_of_Easter_Island/link/65cbde8e34bbff5ba70efc69/download?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7InBhZ2UiOiJwdWJsaWNhdGlvbiIsInByZXZpb3VzUGFnZSI6bnVsbH19

  Paddle: "On the back of old Viriamo, between the shoulder blades, is a motif called ao (“dance paddle”) with conventionalized eyes and nose." https://www.larskrutak.com/sacred-skin-easter-island-ink/

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Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 105 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 08:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC).

• Reviewing... new enough, long enough, interestung hook, QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

  .... Copyvio <3%, interesting hook is in article followed by 2 references containg hook. Image is clear and free. Article is neutral, referenced well and reads well. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Tepano's mother or grandmother?

I don't have time to look through the sources right now but this article claims that Viriamo was Tepano's mother and specifies which marriage he was born from, while the Juan Tepano article claims that she had also been described as his grandmother. LarstonMarston (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm tagging @KAVEBEAR into this discussion as they started the Juan Tepano article and might have better access to those sources than I do. Lajmmoore (talk) 21:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Looking at the three sources on the Juan Tepano article:

• Fischer (Island at the ...) seems to be repeating that they think Viriamo was his grandmother, based on ...
• this book Rongorongo... (also by Fischer) who has a date of birth of 1920 (but I can't see where that is from), which what they and another writer use to make the assumption Viriamo was his grandmother
• the third source just describes how Viriamo understood rongorongo

The sources in this article think that Viriamo's date of birth was later - I think that's also supported by the afct she was alive in 1940 when another explorer visited - c.1840 to c1940 is just about believable, but 1820-1940 might be stretching things. It is all unclear though. Lajmmoore (talk) 21:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I think it was based on this source: https://books.google.com/books?id=Tj16rYA5xK0C&pg=PA132&dq=Tepano+mother&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU5ejn3saJAxWt4skDHQFtCVIQ6AF6BAgHEAM . It seems a 37 year old mother seems more plausible than a grandmother. I think Katherine Routledge, who met the two in the early 1900s, did state that Juan Tepano called her his “mam-ma” [1]. KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)