Talk:University of Minnesota

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Reading Beans in topic Requested move 18 October 2024

University of Minnesota is a system university

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The University of Minnesota (UMN) is a system university with five different campuses i.e. UMN Crookston, UMN Duluth, UMN Morris, UMN Twin Cities, and UMN Rochester. It is misleading to say that UMN is formally UMN Twin Cities. 2607:EA00:401:0:80E8:B40:C4E3:147F (talk) 19:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

We usually follow the lead of reliable sources when naming articles. In this case, we have this article about the primary campus which is what most sources mean when they write "University of Minnesota" and University of Minnesota system for the system. ElKevbo (talk) 02:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
I agree that local news usually refers to the Twin Cities campus as the University of Minnesota; however, I agree with the first commenter that the current name is confusing. Since the article is about the Twin Cities campus, it ought to be titled University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. That is the full and correct name for the university. Miel001 (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
The Twin Cities campus is so dominant as the flagship school of the system, that to burden the article with a longer name would be pedantic. Common usage is "I attend the University of Minnesota" versus "I attend Minnesota Duluth" --The modifier always is appended to the other schools of the system. In the same way, there are a couple of other cities called "Minneapolis", sure, but it is Minneapolis, Minnesota that has earned that article name, versus Minneapolis, Minnesota, the naming style common for most cities. Jax MN (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Proposed Updates

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Hello, I am a student at the University of Minnesota and I have to edit a Wikipedia article for a class. I was thinking about fleshing out the history section and overall just updating the article. Does anyone have any thoughts? Kadida (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Be Bold and go for it! If you have more questions about getting started, the Teahouse is a great resource. TheSavageNorwegian 23:04, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Kadida, beware of editing articles on topics you are closely related to, as you may have a bias, or you may have private knowledge or experience about the topic, which is great, but which is inadmissible at Wikipedia if it hasn't been published in a reliable source. If you decide to go ahead with it, be sure to maintain a strictly neutral point of view, and to avoid using any of your private knowledge or experience, and stick to the published sources. If you can do that, you should be okay. Sources are king; a good place to start your modifications is with a list of the sources you have assembled. You are welcome to add your sources to a new, § Further reading section, which you can add after References and before External links, even in the absence of any changes to the article. Good luck! Mathglot (talk) 11:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please add something about nearby attractions VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also about study spaces VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:57, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Upcoming changes and updates to this page

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Hello all! I just wanted to post here the changes my group(Tyantes3, Kqasim, Sushi19k, and I) will be making in the next few days for our Wikipedia editing assignment. Please let us know any and all feedback you have about these changes as we make them over the next couple of days

Improvements:

  • Expand the history section.
  • Update demographic statistics.
  • Update the Campus Safety section. This section highlights the safety features on the campus but doesn’t explain why they are needed. Dinkytown isn’t the safest area.
  • Add more information about The Minnesota Daily under the Media Print section as it is the current media being produced by the students at the U of M.
  • Add information about the gophers 3 peating as national champions from 1934-1936 in Football. This is tied with Georgia as the most consecutive national championships in NCAA history.

Kadida (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi everyone, I just made the updates to the Athletics. I was originally going to just update the Football section but after further research I realized that almost all of the sections were out of date so I used the Gopher Sports page to update the rest of those sections. Please give any feedback you have! Tyantes3 (talk) 03:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Would be nice if someone can talk about its architecture VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 18 October 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There is no consensus to move. The unbolded !votes seems to oppose on basis of U of M Twin Cities not meeting the criteria to be considered a common name. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Reply


University of MinnesotaUniversity of Minnesota Twin Cities
1. The current title, "University of Minnesota", is ambiguous because it can refer to the entire university system or any of the individual campuses within it. Moving the page to "University of Minnesota Twin Cities" will better reflect that this page is specifically about the Twin Cities campus, the flagship campus in the University of Minnesota system.
2. The official name of the Twin Cities campus is "University of Minnesota Twin Cities", as confirmed by the system's list of campuses, the systemwide University of Minnesota System Identity document, and the Twin Cities campus website.
3. This move ensures consistency with other campuses. Other campuses within the University of Minnesota system, such as "University of Minnesota Duluth" and "University of Minnesota Morris", already include the location in their titles. Aligning the Twin Cities campus with this convention ensures consistency across all pages.
These moves will provide clear distinctions between the system and its campuses, making it easier for readers to find the specific information they are looking for. Cfls (talk) 22:54, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I sympathize with the confusion between the university and the system but it may be a confusion that we simply have to deal with because it reflects WP:COMMONNAME. We do that in other similar situations such as University of Tennessee and University of Maine. So I think we need to focus less on the name used by the institution and its parent organization and more on the name used by everyone else. ElKevbo (talk) 23:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
WP:COMMONNAME can be subjective in this case. Other first campuses that use their full names as article titles include University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, University of Wisconsin–Madison, University of California, Berkeley, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa. I suggest sticking to the name used in official communications by the historically first campus and the system it belongs to. Cfls (talk) 15:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
"I suggest sticking to the name used in official communications by the historically first campus and the system it belongs to" does not seem to align with WP:COMMONNAME. That is certainly one important piece of evidence but it's not the only thing we should be examining. ElKevbo (talk) 11:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
The New York Times (1, 2, 3), The Wall Street Journal (1, 2, 3). Cfls (talk) 23:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
It also does not align with WP:OFFICIAL. I have not investigated this in detail, so my !vote is open, but show me the data that demonstrates that University of Minnesota Twin Cities is used more often in reliable sources not associated with U of M, and I will vote in favor. Otherwise against. Mathglot (talk) 13:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Against. U of M Twin Cities is not in common use.Sandcherry (talk) 11:34, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.