Talk:Tyler Skaggs

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2019

Skaggs was 27 at the time of his death. 216.231.158.89 (talk) 23:33, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

He wasn't a musician. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

I never knew he played baseball Skaggs ~mitch~ (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2019

The 2009 MLB draft, Tyler Skaggs, was drafted 40th overall and not 45th. 45 was his jersey number for the Angels. 71.95.58.149 (talk) 00:04, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done You're right. Thanks for pointing out that error. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:06, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing for infobox stats

Please could someone explicitly provide the sources I have repeatedly requested, or point me to where in the body or infobox I am missing them. Merely pointing at unspecified external links is not adequate. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Espresso Addict, all of the external links in the {{baseballstats}} template will verify the content in the infobox. If nobody else beats me to it, I'll source his career stats inline after dinner. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Muboshgu. It has already been posted to ITN by Newyorkbrad so it would be good to be sure all the data are correct. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:13, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Espresso Addict, I'll keep working on it. This subject could be a GA potentially, with some more expansion. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Cause of death

All we know from news reports is that "foul play" is not suspected. Is there an autopsy in progress? I get that it is early, but knowing that fact can help us find subsequent sources. IIRC, Antonin Scalia died in Texas and no autopsy was performed. Lars Frierson (talk) 06:24, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

As a general rule, old people don't get autopsies unless homicide's suspected. Young people tend to if it's sudden and mysterious. Fame level used to affect the speed of publicized results, but not so much in today's constant news. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:59, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

12Up is saying that Tyler Skaggs died from suicidal overdose of opioid. People said that this death was a tragic passing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DerekTheFifteenMan (talk • contribs) 18:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2019

Date is wrong here: "On July 13, 2019 the Angels played their first home game since the passing of Skaggs. During the game, the team wore Skaggs' jersey. His mother, Debbie Skaggs, threw out the first pitch, which was a perfect strike. The team threw no-hitter against the Seattle Mariners, winning 13-0."

Should be "July 12, 2019". The game took place on Friday July 12, 2019, local (Los Angeles) time. Fdevault (talk) 06:39, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

 Already done —KuyaBriBri^Talk 22:26, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2019

Please change the date of the no-hitter to July 12, 2019. The game began on July 12th across the US, and ended on July 12th in Anaheim (pacific time) 2600:8800:4880:865:281F:C64:7336:8A55 (talk) 07:20, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

 Already done —KuyaBriBri^Talk 22:26, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2019

COMBINED no-hitter. Not "just" a no-hitter. Historic. Reference https://www.nonohitters.com/combined-no-hitters/ I apologize, I have never edited Wiki in this format. Thank you ;-)

•  Not done Pitchers can’t combine to throw anything other than a combined no-hitter, so the second mention of "combined" isn’t necessary. Larry Hockett (Talk) 16:19, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

sources

did the autopsy find the cause of death for sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.209.201.118 (talk) 05:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tyler Skaggs/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk · contribs) 00:37, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Might take me a few days, but I've been writing so many articles myself lately, it seems only fair that I get some of these reviewed. Happy to give this a look! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 00:37, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Had more time than I was expecting this evening! Here are my comments.

• For the section headings under career, I think it would make more sense if they read “Los Angeles Angels (minor league system)”, “Arizona Diamondbacks (2012-2013)”, and “Los Angeles Angels (2014, 2016-2019)”. This will make clearer that the “second stint” was his first in the major leagues.
  •  Done Changed "second stint" to "return", but added years and specified minor league turn.

Lead

• I would remove “for an injury sustained in 2014” – slightly redundant and unnecessary detail for the lead.
• ”and continued to miss” – “also missing” Also, take out “other” before injuries.
• ”At the time of his death, Skaggs posted” – “Through June of 2019, Skaggs had posted” – This makes more sense chronologically, since we haven’t mentioned the death on this pass-through of his story yet.
• opiates to Skaggs, - take out comma afterwards, since next sentence is not an independent clause.
  •  Done all of the above.

Early life

• “referred to Skaggs as the best baseball player to attend the school” – called Skaggs the school’s best baseball player”
  •  Done

Career

• ”2009 Major League Baseball draft” – “2009 Major League Baseball (MLB) draft” – to set up the abbreviation later on
• ”in the same round as” – “in the same round as other Angel draft picks”
• ”Skaggs made” – “The pitcher made” – that way, three sentences in a row don’t start with “Skaggs”
• ”a 8-4” – “an 8-4”
• Also, that dash should probably be an m dash (you can type these from the edit box). I really don’t care about these, but other editors always correct me on them, so I’m guessing that’s the way it’s supposed to be done.
• ”19 appearances, including 14 starts,” – “19 appearances (14 starts)”
• ”it could not be officiated” – “it could not become official” – the way it is now implies it is a sporting event being reviewed by a referee.
• ”after Skaggs signed his contract” – “after Skaggs had signed his contract”
• ”Across both teams” – “Between the Kernels and the Silver Hawks”
• ”was 9–5, with a” – “was 9-5, and he posted a”
• ”was 9–6, with a 2.96 ERA,” – “was 9—6, and he posted a 2.96 ERA”
• Why not mention the game where he got his first major league win? Seems like a pretty big deal.
  • Because I am dumb and forgot to include that he won his first MLB start!
• ”and 5.83 ERA” – “and a 5.83 ERA”
• More detail on his 2013 season? Was he injured (and making rehab starts for the rawhide)? What were his season stats?
• ”He had a” – “Skaggs had a”
• ”Skaggs left a potential no-hitter” – tell how long the no-hitter had been going for.
• ”and elected to miss the 2015 season” – “and elected to delay his return until the beginning of the 2016 season” – after all, he might have missed all of 2015 anyway.
• ”between the major and minor leagues, and finished 3–4 with a 4.17 ERA” – “between the major and minor leagues, posting a 3–4 record with a 4.17 ERA for the Angels.”
• Please provide his stats for the 2017 and 2018 seasons. You may want to make them a separate paragraph from 2019.
• ” At the time of his death” – “Through the end of June”
• ” Across his professional baseball career” – “For his major league career”
  •  Done all of the above

Pitching Style

• Link minor league at first mention (which is back in the Diamondbacks section—sorry, I just caught this)
  •  Already done
• Link changeup at first mention (earlier in paragraph)
  •  Done Whoops, holdover from before I rearranged that section

Personal life

• ” and was a resident of his native Santa Monica until his death” – take out the comma before this clause, and change to “and remained a resident of Santa Monica during his major league career.”
• Take out at the time of his death in the second sentence
  •  Done all of the above

Death

• End first sentence after Southlake, Texas, and begin next with “He was pronounced dead…”
• Take out the comma after system
• ” was ruled as an accident” – take out as.
• Mention earlier in the article that he wore number 45; that will make the Corbin bit more understandable.
  •  Partly done I couldn't find a non-awkward place to insert it in the body, so I just clarified in the sentence that Skaggs wore 45
    • That makes sense. Works for me! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 17:03, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done all the rest

References

• For ref 11, italicize MLB.com, since that is the way it is done later.
• refs 40 and 50 are from the same source. Make the publisher information the same, and I don’t think three different CBS’s are needed.
• Make sure refs 46 and 56 have the same publisher information.
• On ref 52, take out the .com on ESPN
• Italicize MLB.com on ref 64
• List ESPN News Services as author for ref 65
  •  Done all of the above

Misc

I would add in one or two more photos from commons, since there are some and we’ve got room.

 Done

Once these are addressed, I'll look it over again, but it's looking pretty good so far! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 02:11, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking a look! I believe I've addressed all your edits, Sanfranciscogiants17! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 15:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Looks great now, passing. Excellent work! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 17:07, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 20:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Tyler Skaggs pitching with the Angels in 2014

• ... that the Los Angeles Angels' combined no-hitter at the memorial game for Tyler Skaggs (pictured) was the first combined no-hitter in California since the day Skaggs was born? Source: "Together, they contributed the first combined no-hitter in the state of California since the Baltimore Orioles did it on the road against the Oakland Athletics on July 13, 1991, the day Skaggs was born."
  • ALT1:... that former Los Angeles Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs (pictured) played baseball at the same school where his mother coached softball, and used to show up to her practices? Source: Santa Monica High, where he played football, basketball and baseball ... Tyler’s mother, Debbie, was a longtime softball and volleyball coach at Santa Monica High"He would come to his mother’s practices after school, and he would work with some of the girls and field balls with them."

• Reviewed: Charles Scott Napier

Improved to Good Article status by Kncny11 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC).

• All looks good here for the main hook, which I think is more interesting than ALT1. QPQ done, hook cited/interesting, article is a new GA, no copyvio concerns. Image is just fine too. Go Phightins! 10:39, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

TFAR

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Tyler Skaggs --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

"Aspirated on" is incorrect

In the sentence "the examination concluded that Skaggs had died of asphyxia after aspirating on his own vomit," the use of "on" is incorrect. Merriam-Webster Dictionary gives this example: "She began coughing when she aspirated some orange juice." There seems to be confusion between the verbs "to choke" and "to aspirate." "Aspirate" in this context means "to suck into the lungs." Aspiration may cause choking, but they aren't equivalent. Citizen127 (talk) 07:59, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

From sentence.yourdictionary.com: "Some children aspirate the stomach contents, which can cause pneumonia or even sudden death." Citizen127 (talk) 09:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

The only internet search results that contain "aspirating on" are from a very few people using informal language. Citizen127 (talk) 09:20, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@Citizen127: wp:BE BOLD and change it. The worst thing that would happen is your edit would be undone. Do leave an wp:ES giving your reasoning would be helpfu. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 09:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@Adakiko I did, Wozal reverted it with no explanation. It was a simple grammatical correction. I have no idea why anyone would revert it. I'm confused and dismayed. Citizen127 (talk) 09:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)