Talk:Treaty of St. Peters

Latest comment: 28 days ago by Yuchitown in topic Page Split Proposal

Regarding signatory Chief Sha-go-bai

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This man was an Ojibwe chief, based on the St. Croix but ranging to the Mississippi, probably south of the Snake River confluence. Shak-pe, Jack-o-pa, Chagobay, and other variants were used to record this name. He was "Little Six" or "Six" just as the Dakota "Shakpee" was Little Six. I suspect that this name similarity occurred because the Snake and St. Croix bands had some intermarriage with Dakota in the early nineteenth century. I believe that it is the son of this Chagobay who is jailed by the Starkey militia expedition during Minnesota Territory. They encountered him in the vicinity of the Sunrise River. He occurs in Taliaferro's papers at MHS as being involved with the survey team setting the 1836 Ojibwe-Dakota boundary. Jack-o-pa is pictured in the McKenney and Hall set of Ojibwe images.

Linda Bryan Maplewood, Minn Independent researcher on Minnesota History topics.

Moved comments from "Notes" section of the article to here. CJLippert (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Reply

Page Split Proposal

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was that User:Eharris33 was welcome to split article. Yuchitown (talk) 16:23, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi all! I'd like to begin authoring a longer, stand-alone page about the White Pine Treaty of 1837. Currently that treaty is couched within this page. I'd like to propose splitting the section "1837 Treaty of St. Peters" to White Pine Treaty (which doesn't exist yet,) and to then link to that page as was done with "The Treaty of Mendota." Thoughts? Eharris33 (talk) 17:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Eharris33:, this sounds great. Separate treaties that happen to have the same name should have different articles. gobonobo + c 05:48, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Support. Not a subject matter expert here, but its seems likea good idea. Some treaties with the same name have the same page, but that is done when the treaties cover very similar subjects with the same parties. Here it seems the treaties are very much different from each other. //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 16:44, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
This split request is almost four years old. User:Eharris33, it appears no one has an object to the split. Would you care to make that happen? Yuchitown (talk) 18:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Treaty with the Sioux in 1837

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This source says in another treaty of 1837 the Dakota had to cede all land east of the Mississippi. Doesn't this article seem to read only from the view of the Ojibwe? -SusanLesch (talk) 19:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

This article by Linda Clemmons explains a lot too. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply