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@TheDoctorWho I'm not convinced we should be listing Chibnall as a showrunner for Torchwood, on the basis of a single outlying passing mention that describes him as such. The first line of showrunner suggests that a showrunner must be an executive producer, which I think holds true given commonly understood production aspect of the position. Hence Chibnall being far more commonly described as "head writer" for the first two series. I've not seen any substantial indication that he ran the day-to-day production, and the article prose doesn't indicate that either. U-Mos (talk) 07:11, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I wouldn't say there's an excess of sources crediting him as such, but there are a few others. This GamesRadar+ source for example. Barrowman also refers to him as such in this quote that Radio Times has. I can't personally speak for the executive producer credit. While I know that IMDb isn't a reliable source, and I would need to actually verify he's credited as such, he does appear to be listed as a co-producer for the first two series, which means he did serve in some sort of producer-related capacity. Similar to your reference of Wikipedia's page on showrunners, I'll also point out that the head writer article states "In fictional comedy or drama TV shows, this is generally performed by an executive producer, who is usually also the showrunner" (emphasis on the term generally which provides room for exceptions). TheDoctorWho(talk)07:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Okay, in that case I think it would be appropriate to have a footnote that includes all these sources, with wording such as "Some sources refer to Chibnall as a showrunner of the first two series due to his head writer role". I also think Davies should be listed above him, as he'd also be showrunner of the first two series and more indisputably so. U-Mos (talk) 08:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have no objections to that. It's early morning for me, and I'm currently replying on my phone, so I'll make the changes tommorow evening when I have my laptop unless you want to beat me to it. TheDoctorWho(talk)08:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
