Talk:Tim Healy (politician)

Healy as British Agent?

There is an interesting suggestion in Tim Pat Coogan's book on Michael Collins that Healy may have been a long standing British agent code-named Thorpe: and that Michael Collins' near unmasking of the identity of Thorpe may have played some part in Collins' death. Coogan does not come to any definite conclusion on this suggestion: but certain aspects of Healy's career would make much more sense if he had been a British Agent. Is there any more evidence available on this point?

[This unsigned comment was moved from the article to the talk page by Vilcxjo 11:02, 19 October 2005 (UTC)]

WOuld anyone object if I added a small section regarding the above speculation. Also, there is nothing regarding Healy's IRB membership. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.216.70 (talk) 02:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

What IRB membership? Where are you getting this, SineBot? Pageturners (talk) 20:28, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

However Healy's memoirs published in the 1920s openly stated that he was a visitor to 10 Downing Street in 1919-20, as well as being a moderate Sinn Féin supporter. While there's always plenty to speculate on, nothing he said would have influenced events, and it seems he admired Collins in 1922 and had no obvious reason to see him dead. Nor did the British, at that time.86.46.221.236 (talk) 12:41, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

"Brilliant"

The writer of the article fails to support his/her view that Healy was "brilliant". Like many others, I can think of very many adjectives to describe Tim Healy. "Brilliant" is not one of them.El Gringo 05:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Removed the 'brilliant' claim since nobody has defended it. El Gringo 22:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Move?

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The result of the proposal was moved to Tim Healy (politician). While everyone seems to agree about the person's common name, no evidence for the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC claim has been presented. No prejudice against a subsequent discussion on this question with evidence. --BDD (talk) 17:48, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

• This Irish historical figure was universally known as "Tim Healy". The only other claimant of the name is already disambiguated as Tim Healy (actor). The Tim Healy page is only a redirect to the Timothy Healy dab page. Scolaire (talk) 13:32, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
• This is not a simple, uncontroversial request. There may be a case for the Irish politician to be the primary topic, but that should be determined with some discussion and consensus, not as a technical move request. older ≠ wiser 14:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Would you please outline what is controversial about the move? The rule is to use the full name in the article but use the commonly known name for the title. So what is the controversy? Crtew (talk) 16:47, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support as the rules seem pretty clear and the objector above does not at this time explain why such a move would be controversial. Calling something controversial is not an argument. Crtew (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
• Tim Healy was a disambig page and now redirects to Timothy Healy, which is still a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
• Use Tim Healy (politician) to address the concern about the common name. Keep "Tim Healy" as a redirect to the disambiguation page -- 76.65.129.3 (talk) 22:57, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
• Support move to Tim Healy (politician). Tim Healy (actor) is also pretty well-known. I don't think there is a primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
• Support move to Tim Healy (politician). Snappy (talk) 16:55, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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SOURCES

This article lists very few sources.MarkHarper1 (talk) 01:14, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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Private seal

Questions at Talk:Great Seal of the Irish Free State#Tim Healy's private seal jnestorius^(talk) 12:19, 16 October 2019 (UTC)