Talk:Tiffany Shlain

what is this fuck?

linked-in is where resumes should go. this page reads like the C.V. of a random internet employee who has done one or three notable things ever in their life. Can we strip it down to the notable things and get rid of the overhyped wharrgarble and pompous self-promotion? The minutia of the subject's daily life is not encyclopedic material, nor is it NPOV.

69.181.168.139 (talk) 06:45, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

December 2022 Updates

Hi, I am recommending some updates to this article. These reflect recent accomplishments and changes in the career of the subject of the article, Tiffany Shlain. I am declaring I have a conflict of interest since I have a personal connection to Shlain. Thanks!

• At the end of the Career section, please add a new sentence (after the sentence beginning with “In 2020, the book was awarded…”). Provides updates and details about a new artistic phase of Shlain’s career covered in top-tier reliable press sources, Variety (magazine).

In 2020, Shlain performed her spoken cinema show “Dear Human” at the Museum of Modern Art.  

• At the end of the Career section, please add a new sentence about Shlain’s art exhibit. The press source, Marin Living, has an independent editorial team.

In 2022, her solo art exhibit Human Nature was presented by National Women's History Museum. The exhibit included her feminist history  dendrochronology (tree ring) piece, Dendrofemonology. 

• Please add the word “artist” to the lead section’s first sentence so it reads “filmmaker, artist and author.” The previous request establishes that her artwork is a serious part of her career, and it has been covered in the press.

• In the Career section’s paragraph 8 first sentence, which begins with “Shlain lectures on filmmaking…”, please replace the primary source with the new second source and change to the past tense. The new LA Times source specifies slightly different subject matter. I provided a reliable secondary source for the TED talks, which is now unsourced, supplemented by two primary sources to show the topics. This is the format (including primary source usage) from Bill Gates#Video and film clips, a “Good Article.”

Here is the existing sentence and source:

 Shlain lectures on filmmaking, the Internet's influence on society, and the future, and has spoken at TEDWomen and TEDMED.

Here is the suggested replacement sentence/sources:

Shlain has lectured on the convergence of technology and pop-culture and has spoken at  TED conferences on topics of cross-disciplinary thinking and how women imagine their futures.

• After the Career section’s ninth paragraph, which begins with the sentence “Shlain directed a film…” and ends with the sentence “These gatherings of people…,” please add the following three sentences as a new paragraph. This was a noteworthy occurrence which Shlain participated in.

In 2017, Shlain was chosen to contribute one of 100 essays about the future, included in the world’s first 3D printed book, Genius: 100 Visions of the Future, which was printed in the International space station in zero gravity and debuted at the “Genius 100: Innovation Summit” event, attended by the participants.

• In the infobox please change the photo from:

| image       = Tiffany Shlain 20200118-8956 (cropped).jpg 

To:

| image       = TiffanyShlain2022.jpg

The current photo is blurry. The new picture is better quality. It puts Shlain in the foreground. And, it is five years more recent/current than the existing photo (2022).

Thanks.

Carrera8888 (talk) 17:47, 19 December 2022 (UTC) Carrera8888 (talk) 17:47, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: Hi. Implemented some of your requests. A few notes: heavily tweaked or trimmed your statements, as they were either misleading, inaccurate, exaggerated or outright unreferenced (you'll find the modifications by cross-referencing with these requests); Marin Living might have an editorial team, but she's associated with the organization and a bio blurb is not a reliable source; FYI, Wikipedia is not one either. PK650 (talk) 04:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

@PK650: Thank you very much for acting on (and improving) my requests for the Tiffany Shlain article. I understand why you declined two of my requests, the first and part of the fourth. I have found new sources that should make them both acceptable. Can you take a look? First request: I asked to add the sentence: “In 2020, Shlain performed her spoken cinema show “Dear Human” at the Museum of Modern Art.” You declined it because the source (Variety Magazine) did not support the “Dear Human” title. I found additional supporting sources. One is a Canadian magazine called Point of View. The other is the Marin Living magazine I used in another request. The third is a Primary source, the MOMA’s listing of the performance, which under WP:PRIMARY is acceptable since it only establishes a simple uncontroversial fact.

About the Marin Living source. Your comment said Shlain was associated with the publication and that a “bio blurb is not a reliable source.” I looked for evidence to confirm your statement. The story cited is not a bio blurb. [1] It’s a story of 558 words; is it possible you mixed it up with something else? Nothing I saw in the magazine or articles would suggest she is anything more than the subject of editorial coverage. The archives had two other articles about her. But she’s not listed as a contributor.

Request with the new citations:

In 2020, Shlain performed her spoken cinema show “Dear Human” at the Museum of Modern Art.

Fourth request (partly accepted): Everything was accepted but the claim that the National Women’s History Museum “presented” the exhibit. I found a newly published story in San Francisco Magazine covering the event. The source states that the “Next stop for Human Nature: the National Women’s History Museum (womenshistory.org) in Washington, D.C.” I’ve also added a primary source to support the statement:

In 2022, she exhibited her solo art show Human Nature, including her feminist history  dendrochronology (tree ring) piece, Dendrofemonology. The National Women's History Museum extended the show in January 2023.

Infobox pic caption: Thanks for uploading the photo. The caption is still there from the old photo. Would you mind changing it?

Suggested new caption.

“Tiffany Shlain, "Dendrofemology", 2022”

Thanks again!Carrera8888 (talk) 18:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I edited the caption but won't be assisting with the other requests as I am curently busy with a few others! PK650 (talk) 23:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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March 2023 updates

Hi, I have a personal connection to Tiffany Shlain and therefore a conflict of interest. User: PK650 reviewed similar items above and pointed out problems, which I think I have resolved with the revisions below. Appreciate the review.

First request: In the Career section, second to last paragraph (beginning with “In 2019”) please revise the third sentence to include the title of the artistic work Shlain performed at the MOMA. I provided two press sources and one primary source, the MOMA’s listing of the performance.

Current sentence for reference:

Shlain performed "a live cinematic essay-performance" at the Museum of Modern Art's sidebar program "Nonfiction+" during its Doc Fortnight 2020.

Revised sentence:

In 2020, Shlain performed her spoken cinema show “Dear Human” at the Museum of Modern Art.

Second request: In the Career section’s final sentence (the one about Shlain’s Human Nature art exhibit), please add the new reliable source provided. And then please add a new reliably sourced sentence about the Natural Women’s History Museum showing the exhibit in January 2023. I provided reliable secondary sources supplemented with a primary source, the museum’s published listing for the exhibit, acceptable under WP:PRIMARY since the fact to support is simple and uncontroversial.

Current sentence for reference:

In 2022, she presented her solo art exhibit Human Nature, an ehibit including her feminist history dendrochronology (tree ring) piece, Dendrofemonology.

Proposed new sentences:

In 2022, she exhibited her solo art show Human Nature, including her feminist history  dendrochronology (tree ring) piece, Dendrofemonology. The National Women's History Museum repeated the show in January 2023.

ThanksCarrera8888 (talk) 16:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Actualcpscm (talk) 10:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking the time to review this, User:Actualcpscm! I’ll go do the changes you’ve authorized me to make right now. Really appreciate your help with all this! Carrera8888 (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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