Talk:Stony Island (Michigan)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that, after spending decades as a central hub for river dredging operations, Stony Island's only inhabitants for ten years were a caretaker and his two dogs? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/River Works station

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC).

the hook looks promising, but I suggest it could be shortened a bit more. Maybe like:

• ALT1: ... that after being a central hub for river dredging operations, Stony Island's population was reduced to only a caretaker and his two dogs?--ZKang123 (talk) 02:30, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@ZKang123: I was trying to come up with a more succinct way to phrase the hook, and what you just came up with is brilliant. I love it! How about this:

ALT2: ... that after decades of being a central hub for river dredging operations, Stony Island's population was reduced to a caretaker and his two dogs?

Either this or the one you wrote is fine to me. jp×g 02:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

ALT1 or ALT2 will be fine. Alright will pass the nomination. Will leave it to the promoter themselves to decide which of the ATL hooks are better.--ZKang123 (talk) 02:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

ALT2 to T:DYK/P6

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Stony Island (Michigan)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 18:35, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• Not sure why so many cites in the lead, see MOS:LEADCITE, as everything in the lead is normally mentioned in the article, reference it there instead.
  • Y I've written an actual lead.
• Put (USGS) after the expanded version.
  • Y Done.
• "in Wayne County.[5]" overlinked.
  • Y Done.
• "″W[1], and" ref after comma.
  • Y Done.
• Lead could use one or two more sentences, perhaps about its history.
  • Y Done.
• I would have the History section ahead of the Ecology section.
  • Y Done.
• "chinkapin oak, hackberry and cottonwood" links?
  • ? I had those linked, but they got tagged with a {{dn}} because they weren't links to specific species. The source itself doesn't give this information (all it says is "There are approximately 20.2 ha (50 acres) of upland area which includes a mix of vegetation; massive chinkapin oak, hackberry and cottonwood are among the old growth"). Since I didn't want to do OR, I just removed the links.
• "over 23 species" more than.
  • Y Done.
• "ed lake sturgeon,[6]:4​lake whitefish,[6]:4​rainbow smelt,[6]:8​northern pike,[6]:10​muskellunge,[6]:10​carp,[6]:13​minnow,[6]:17​channel catfish,[6]:19​bullhead[disambiguation needed],[6]:19​white bass,[6]:22​smallmouth bass,[6]:22​yellow perch,[6]:25​walleye,[6]:31​and " spaces after each reference, and one of those is already tagged as [disambiguation needed].
  • Y Done.
• " by Potawatomi, who" context, who were they?
  • Y Done.
• "connecting it to Grosse Ile[2] as" overlinked.
  • Y Done.
• "activity died down" dredging activity?
  • Y Done.
• "1977[10] until the company ceased operations in 1987.[12]" put that [10] at the end, nasty placement now.
  • Y Done.
• Date formats in the references should be consistent.
  • Y Done.
• Ref 1 needs more information, publisher/website and publication/access date etc.
  • ? I assume you're talking about the GNIS ref; I don't think I can do this, since the reference is provided through a template ({{Gnis}}). I can try to look at the documentation, but it doesn't seem like it will work.

That's it. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: I think that covers everything. Thanks for picking up these articles so quickly! jp×g 22:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Usable source

jp×g 05:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Another one here. jp×g 08:38, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

And here. jp×g 08:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Permit from 1961. jp×g 08:40, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Unsigned indenture for the island, 1920 jp×g 11:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Who owns the rock piles? When did D&S buy the island? All of these answers and more.

1925 permit from War Department for covering fill with riprap

Letterhead, 1922

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