Talk:State University System of Florida

Rankings

Why are these more important than university size? I do not see the point. To avoid an edit war can we look and see if people think student body size would be better than a random ranking system. Dgreco (talk) 15 January 2009

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Special Date Reference for FSU and UF

I noted that an editor added a special date reference for FSU illuminating when the university changed it's official founding from 1857 to 1851 per this reference: http://www.sptimes.com/News/072900/State/FSU_s_age_change__his.shtml The editor saw fit to add the note reference Florida State but did not add it for the University of Florida, which changed its founding date from 1905 to 1853. I subsequently added the UF date reference which has now been reverted. Can we not agree this kind of notation is penny-ante rival university edit warring and just leave it alone for both schools completely? This is not a productive activity. And yes, there are additional references available to establish the UF date change nonsense. Sirberus (talk) 17:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

From the source, it looks like the Florida Board of Control, predecessor to the current Board of Governors, was the entity that in 1935 changed Florida State University and the University of Florida's establishment dates from 1905 to the years they opened - 1857 and 1853, respectively. Then in the year 2000, Florida State University changed its date of establishment to 1851. It's footnote-worthy that a university changed its establishment date from the one set by its governing board, but the footnote should explain the whole situation, not just Florida State University's. I'm adding a footnote with language to cover both sides. PalmaCeiaJD (talk) 03:32, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

There is much more to this story than this St. Pete Times article. UF has a considerable and noteworthy story on this matter as well, as evidenced by this example source: Gainesville Sun - (1/23/2003): [| Happy Birthday UF...but let's get real here] while FSU actually is returning to a date (1851) used by predecessor schools as evidenced (there are other sources) by this source: [| The Argo (of the Florida State College) Vol II, 1901-1902, pg. 115] If we are going to tell this story, let's get it right. Sirberus (talk) 09:06, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

The dates are certainly footnote worthy. I'll add them in with better sources than are currently given.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

What is the issue with the two additional cites? Why are these changes being reverted? Sirberus (talk) 03:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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DEI Controversy

This article on the SUS is not the place to list temporary political policy discussions. I removed the paragraph on current DEI policy. Sirberus (talk) 14:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I disagree that it's a "temporary political policy discussion." The University of Florida, just one of the members of this system, has fired 13 staff, removed administrative appointments for 15 faculty, and reallocated at least $5 million. And of course this is taking place in the context of a state governor and legislature that is intruding so significantly into the governance and academic affairs of public colleges and universities, including this system, that the institutional accreditor for all of these universities has raised concerns (to which the governor and legislature then put in place the asinine requirement that all public colleges and universities in the state have to move to a new accreditor every ten years). This is clearly a very significant series of incidents that need to be discussed in this article. ElKevbo (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I concur it's significant policy, and we'll see if it is temporary. I agree it should be covered, but not here. The better page for presentation would be on the Governorship of Ron DeSantis page. This page is obscure and too separated from policymakers. The FL BOG page could also be an appropriate venue for discussion. Individual universities would also be appropriate for more unique actions (e.g., what U of F did) within the controversy Sirberus (talk) 00:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)