Talk:Space Camp (United States)

Discussion

This has the potential to be a really great article. Things I'd like to see added are:

• Better overview section.
• History, a section for both for the camp as a whole, and for each of the programs (dates, etc.)
• Statistics, such as number of attendees / year, number of alumni, etc.
• Discussion of Space Camp in pop culture, maybe discuss the movie of the same name, etc.
• Wikification

Like I said before, I think we could make this really great, so I'll be working on this when I have time, and I hope everyone will help contribute as much as they can :) - Matt 03:41, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Okay I've added a picture now, I'd like to get a few more though - Matt 04:13, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I attended U.S. Space Camp in Huntsville, AL, in the summer of 1987. There is a Space Camp in Florida, or at least there used to be. I haven't dug around here so apologies if it's mentioned somewhere or under a different article. Just seems missing, in my initial reading here. It opened some time after the original (Alabama-based) Space Camp... I was in high school (1988-1992) by the time the Florida camp was opened, as I recall, if that helps time/date it. A quick Google shows it may have undergone foreclosure -- http://www.space.com/news/fl_spacecamp_020806.html Ageekgal 18:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

There were two additional Space Camps in the U.S., Space Camp Florida and Space Camp California (also an Aviation Challenge California), all of which are now closed. Space Camp Florida is/was(?) part of the Astronaut Hall of Fame. The habitat, similar to the one in Huntsville, is still there and they do day camps and such there now as part of the Astronaut Training Experience (ATX). I'm not sure what became of Space Camp California or Aviation Challenge California. For what it's worth, the U.S. Space and Rocket Center still has property at the facility in Florida, but has not requested its return due to political issues. Crkey 14:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I second what the user from 2007 said (9 years ago). The article section stating that the Florida location no longer holds camp is incorrect. Kennedy Space Center does run a day camp space camp called Camp Kennedy Space Camp or Camp KSC. Summer camp is at the ATX (Astronaut Training Experience), formerly the Astronaut Training Center (in the building with the US Astronaut Hall of Fame which is currently closed for a reboot). The Kennedy Space Center website says they have a winter camp, too. Nrweaver1 (talk) 17:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

AD Status

According to the banner for this article, it at least one editor has deemed it reads like an advertisement. Does any one else concur, or may we remove (or otherwise deal with) the banner? Given the knowledge I have of the facility (and other similar programs) it would be difficult to document and describe a camp environment without sounding somewhat "AD"-ish (how else does one talk about another?). Thoughts? Crkey 17:33, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

It definitely still reads like an advertisement. A few examples of ad-like phrases:

• "adventures for kids and adults alike."
• "two to six day experience"
• "family of programs"
• "fascinating stories"

Because of those examples and more, the overall tone of the article gives the impression of reading a brochure handed out to prospective customers. And, if you have first-hand knowledge of the program, you're probably not the best person to deal with the problem. A disinterested party is needed. I'd suggest requesting the help of someone at the Copyediting WikiProject. Kafziel ^Talk 18:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah...

...memories. (Disco Blue) · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 21:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

We really should get it changed to U.S. Space Camp United States Space Camp sounds horrible and that is not what its really called

I just got back from a week at Space Camp, what a blast! I have a lot of pics of the museum, etc. Will have to dig'em out and post some.

To edit or not to edit...

I've been to space camp & have a pretty good idea about its history & what not (6 years) But... I'm not so good citing resorces or with pictures, should i try to edit it?

Thanks, Hardtoedit 05:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Please do. I've been looking online for sources to cite regarding its history (specifically the von Braun/Buckbee "talk in the park") but amazingly have found very little, even though its all fairly well known within the "family". I've moved the 25th Anniversary material into the History section and revised it to be more time neutral (?). I also plan on working on the "AD-iness" (is that a word?) so it more accurately reflects the institution and programs. Crkey 01:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I found another reference to the discussion between Von Braun and Buckbee in the U.S.Space and Rocket Center "About Us" Section and added a reference."<https://www.rocketcenter.com/aboutus> I also found the page (151) in the book Dr. Space: The Life of Wernher von Braun where it describes how he came up with the idea. I updated the history section to more closely align with the text from the book. PS I'm relatively new at this editing and I hope I didn't mess up this Talk page. Apologies in advance if I did and I will try to fix anything that I might have messed up. DoktorScience (talk) 05:04, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Rename page

The proper name of the camp is "Space Camp" and has not been "U.S. Space Camp" for some time (I can't find the exact date but it has been at least 10 years). The change in name was the result of increased international attendance as well as the international focus of the International Space Station. There is a disambiguation page for "Space Camp" already. Does it make sense to rename this page then to "Space Camp (camp)"? Crkey (talk) 01:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I think disambiguation page does the job. If we change this one, it would have to be "Space Camp (United States camp)" and we would have to change the camps in Europe and Turkey to match... ComputerGeezer (talk) 18:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Executive Management

The listing of the management staff really is not very encyclopedic. Besides, "Space Camp" is not the organization. It's the product. Looking a this as a company, the United States Space & Rocket Center or even an article about the Alabama Space Science Exhibit Commission would probably be a better place to put a management listing as that is the actual corporate entity. This section was previously removed on 11 April 2008. Crkey (talk) 02:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Traveling Exhibits

Museum exhibits, specifically the Jedi exhibit mention, do not belong on the camp page but should be on the museum page, US Space and Rocket Center. I plan to move this mention to the appropriate page. Crkey (talk) 16:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Tone Revision

3 years since it was tagged and it still reads like an advertisement. I am currently working on another article at the moment, but if I have time I will return to this article to make it read more like an encyclopedia entry. TetraEleven (talk) 07:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Eastbound & Down

Episode number needs verification. The source cited is a YouTube post which claims the scene is from "the third episode of the fourth season of the series". However, the List of Eastbound & Down episodes says the fourth episode of that season is the one in which "Toby uses his dad as a role model to summon the courage to feed his new pet", and this fansite is in agreement, with the episode summary:

'Kenny buys lavish gifts, including ... a purebred wolf for Toby. With Kenny gone a alot more, the wolf will serve as a spirit guide, and strong male role model for Toby, so he doesn’t ”turn out weird.”'

Meticulo (talk) 00:18, 10 September 2019 (UTC) (edited for clarity 11Sep2019)

Requested move 11 September 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. No opposition and seems reasonable.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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United States Space Camp → Space Camp (United States) – Space Camp is both the current official name of the organisation, and how it is commonly referred to in media. The article itself at one point states, "Space Camp (formerly U.S. Space Camp)'. Previous discussion about such a move, in 2008, was inconclusive. Meticulo (talk) 10:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Section-ectomy

I've removed the "Notable attendees and visitors" and "In popular culture" sections because I believe they were WP:UNDUE coverage that didn't really belong in the article. I think a significantly pared down version of the "In popular culture" section would be acceptable but I've decided to boldly TNT the whole thing in hopes that anyone trying to bring it back will stick to references that can be secondarily sourced. casualdejekyll 21:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)