Talk:Sigismondo Pandolfo Malatesta

Latest comment: 7 years ago by 146.255.181.124 in topic Nickname "the Wolf of Rimini"

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"Canonized in hell?" Perhaps this was meant to be "condemned to hell," or some equivalent. Can anyone verify from the source? As it is, it makes no sense. InvisibleSun, 8/29/05

  • It's true enough. Popes cannot actually condemn someone to hell, as they believe that this is for their god to do. However, in a unique move Pius declared Sig. a kind of "anti-saint" and by this "canonisation" made hell his home. See, for instance, [1]. Most of the good sources for his life are old and in print, however. 194.129.118.250 10:43, 30 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Need to add something from Burkhardt, who said he was guilty of murder, rape, adultery, incest, sacrilege, perjury, and treason, not to mention attempting to have his son, Roberto, murdered. I don't think Burkhardt approved of him. . . . --Michael K. Smith 13:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

But is this criticism factual true? I have read a very good book on Pound's use/view of Malatesta, which shows in detail how incredibly biased and wrong Pound's sources of the Malatestas were.--Radh (talk) 20:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

"not a religious man"? "essentially a lay monument"?

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The characterization of the subject as "not a religious man", and the description of the Tempio Malatestiano as a "essentially a lay monument" is unsupportable. There is certainly evidence that Malatesta was religious, although his religiosity was at the very least unorthodox with respect to the Christianity of his day. The fact that he had George Gemistos Plethon interred in the Tempio can obviously be construed as evidence that Malatesta was favorably disposed toward some version of Hellenic polytheism a la Plethon. This view is further supported by the extensive use of classical (pre-Christian) religious imagery throughout the Tempio. --Durruti36 (talk) 15:11, 8 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Nickname "the Wolf of Rimini"

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The title of this book may be partly responsible for the notion that Sigismondo was known as "the Wolf of Rimini" by contemporaries or indeed subsequently at any point before the 21st century, when this sobriquet has gained some ground. In fact there is no evidence for its use in his lifetime and it cannot be found in any mainstream historical or biographical text on Sigismondo predating the Internet.

Kenneth Clark refers to Sigismondo as the Wolf of Rimini in his 1969 series Civilisation - don't know the source he's using, though. So while the nickname might very well be a much later invention, it certainly predates the Internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.255.181.124 (talk) 04:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)Reply