Talk:Sibyl of Falaise

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Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 15:04, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Which "King Henry"? And can we link him.
Link Anglo-Norman,
"likely that Sibyl was the daughter of Henry's elder brother Robert Curthose". Legitimate or illegitimate?
"Sibyl was just a "kinswoman" of Henry's". I don't think that the possessive is necessary, as =you already cover it with the use of "of".
The lead says she "was an Anglo-Norman noblewoman", the article mentions neither of these.
"Lead: "She was either his illegitimate daughter or a niece". The article discusses other options.

Gog the Mild (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

- I should have gotten all of those - I hate not being able to state the obvious - she was "Anglo-Norman" but I cannot find a single source that bothers to state that. And she was a noblewoman ... as someone who was titled "kinswoman" of a king, but again, this is so obvious that no one bothers to say it in print. Ealdgyth (talk) 16:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
  Just chiming in as a non-involved editor, neither "Anglo-Norman" nor "noblewoman" are the slightest bit controversial. She's (probably?) the daughter of one of William the Conqueror's sons - can't get much more Anglo-Norman than that. If we can't call her Anglo-Norman we should also stop saying "so-and-so is a French (insert occupation)" when the sources say "so-and-so was born in Paris to French parents in 1864". -- asilvering (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Like Asilvering I am entirely relaxed as to whether you cite this statement of the obvious or not, but it needs stating in either both the lead and the body or neither. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:11, 22 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Marriage and Issue

Latest comment: 4 hours ago2 comments2 people in discussion

If you have any comments on this section of her entry, please raise this here.

As someone who has been doing her tree for over 8 years, I know who she married and who her children are. Pipera (talk) 15:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

This has been explained over and over, but personal opinions or personal research should not be used in wikipedia articles. We go by what reliable sources state and changing sourced text and replacing it with unsourced text that is then claimed to be correct based on personal research is Wikipedia:Disruptive editing and needs to stop. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

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