Talk:Sheikh Adi ibn Musafir

Latest comment: 24 days ago by Shaked13 in topic Muslim to Yazidi?

Kurdish/Arab?

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Any specific info on his ethnicity would help. Considering how fiercely endogamous the modern Yazidi are I think it would be good to clarify whether or not he has partial Arab ancestry. 76.118.92.242 (talk) 19:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, good point. Was thinking something similar just now. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:55, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Muslim and Yazidi

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There have been several disputes on his religious adherence, whether he is Yazidi or a Muslim. It is already mentioned in the article that he was a disciple of a muslim scholar and wrote about the Sunna. But he is probably better known for being a Yazidi saint who established his own sect which later would become known as the Yazidi. I'll remove there fore the mention that he was a muslim from the first phrase and leave the mention that he was a student and disciple of muslim scholars. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:09, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

I left the Muslim part in the lead, but adapted the lead in order to give his role for the Yazidi more importance. Any comments in the discussion to settle this issue would be welcomed. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:28, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
I have added the neutrality-template to the article and also have added that he was a Yazidi saint. Dortana (talk) 15:08, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Revert by Dortana

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@Dortana: Can you explain why we should use a reference which is ambiguous in its statement?

The source is not ambiguous. The Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World is a reliable sourceDortana (talk) 16:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I said the statement was ambiguous. Find a better source, until then I am going to revert back to a stable version per Wikipedia:Consensus. --Semsûrî (talk) 20:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Muslim to Yazidi?

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Could we get some explanation of how a Muslim scholar came to be a Yazidi saint. Apparently Yazidism is not an Abrahamic religion but it was traditionally founded by a man who remained a Muslim throughout his life. Clearly some piece of information is missing here that the article does not provide. Shaked13 (talk) 17:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

You could say that Sheikh Adi came into contact with local Kurdish-speaking tribes who integrated him into their pre-Zoroastrian belief systems. Equiyamnaya (talk) 20:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Right I see that but do they believe that he was a Yazidi or do they admit that he was a Muslim or they believe that Yazidism is what he called Islam? Was he trying to teach them Islam or just monotheism or was he trying to teach then this new religion even though he was (or had been?) Muslim?
It's not clear to me from the article if the Yazidis misunderstood him (and if so it should be important to describe what they believe occurred), if he was actually trying to create a new religion, or if somehow the Yazidis knew/know that he himself didn't believe in their new religion but incorporated him anyway. Shaked13 (talk) 21:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply