Talk:Shadoof

Shadoof song

I read somewhere that Egyptians have a traditional song or chant for using the shadoof, and that it is supposed to be the oldest known song. If anyone else has more information or a source, adding it to this article would be useful. Unless the song needs its own article, or one already exists. (A sound file would be great too!) Lusanaherandraton (talk) 10:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Shaduf song-RE

When I was in Egypt, I also heard of this shaduf song. Also, When I was walking past a group of ladies gathered around a shaduf they were singing a song. is it possible that this is the shaduf song? also, i have a recording. if anyone knows an arabic speaker, could you please post on this page, as i will have it on my watchlist. if anyone is reading this that has already contributed(especially the writer of the original article of the song) could you please contact me on my user talk. mrmeh 06:31, 4 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake happe (AKA mrmeh) (talk • contribs)

The Shaduf chant is (or at least was) listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the "world's oldest known song". Oddly, I can't find any detailed information about the chant online - much less any audio or video recordings. Muzilon (talk) 02:58, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Shadoof

Ancient egyptions used this as a handy tool in camps to move water. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.208.70.229 (talk) 06:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Article name

I have just converted the spelling back to Shadoof to match the article name. However, is "shaduf" in fact a better spelling? Please set out views on this issue, with a view to the article being renamed. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

The word shaduf is noted in the video clip, Planet Earth by Duran Duran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.151.151.50 (talk) 04:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Article name(RE)

Personally, I think that the name 'Shaduf' is a better name/spelling. I have heard that it can also be spelled as 'Shadouf' and 'Shaaduf'. Having been to Egypt and the surrounding areas myself, I have seen Egyptian designs of Shadufs(is 'shadufs' the proper plural for 'shaduf'?) and when I have found a native Egyptian or Western Person that has been living there for a long time, I found that they spelled it 'Shaduf' and I hink that this should be the name of the article so everyone can have the correct(ish) spelling mrmeh 06:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake happe (AKA mrmeh) (talk • contribs)

More article name!

Whether it's called shaduf, shadoof, or any other variant, there should be complete consistency throughout the article. It should pick one name as a preferred version, mention the others, and then stick to the preferred name throughout. Currently, we have the article name "Shadoof" immediately followed by "A shaduf.... is an irrigation tool". There are then multiple uses of shaduf in the article and a couple more shadoofs!

Summary: Let's decide on one and apply it consistently, please, mentioning other variants only once in passing? 82.71.0.229 (talk) 20:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

i think that it's just a name for what's used for/does. [Anon]

If you think that another spelling is more appropriate, nominate it for renaming at WP:RM, preferably after logging in. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it matters what the article is called: it's a question of using the same name consistently throughout the article and not swapping back and forth randomly between variants. 82.71.0.229 (talk) 14:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. The only place where I've not made it consistent is in the references as they are likely direct quotes of a title. Niamh (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Indistinct subject

The construction (in its essentials) is used in several parts of the world and also (even most often?) for simple wells, not irrigation. That's just barely hinted at in the article. But should the article be globalised and renamed to some more general English name ("Well sweep"?)? Should it be reduced to what's specific to, say, irrigation in the Midde East and a more general article added? 151.177.57.24 (talk) 20:49, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

I would agree that a more general English name would be better as a title. This device is used across the developing (and parts of the developed) world, and has different names everywhere. So here (on an English language site) we'd be better served using an English name, n'est ce pas? Swanny18 (talk) 03:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Dubious

The Construction section has the (unreferenced) claim that "When correctly balanced, the counterweight will support a half-filled bucket, so some effort is used to pull an empty bucket down to the water, but only the same effort is needed to lift a full bucket". This is contradicted by the description in the sources on the page, which say the counterweight supports the whole weight of the water, and the operator uses his (or her) bodyweight to push the bucket down; then the counterweight lifts the full bucket effortlessly.(Potts, Faiella). So I've re-written it. Has anybody seen any source that backs up the original claim? Swanny18 (talk) 03:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Shaduf

It should be shaduf

"Efficiency"

The article says "its efficiency has been calculated at 60%". What does this mean? 60% of what? Furius (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Technology and Culture

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Gl3bert (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Thecanyon (talk) 05:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: 311_History of Ancient Egypt

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2024 and 22 March 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Epichippo (article contribs). Peer reviewers: AnonymousUsername934, MightyFiveEleven.

— Assignment last updated by Johnstoncl (talk) 18:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)