Talk:Santiago de Compostela Cathedral

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Humphrey Tribble in topic Origin of the name "campostela"


Botafumeiro

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After some investigation on the web, I have found accounts that the Botafumeiro is made of "silver brass", or silver-plated brass. I have also seen some pictures where the Botafumeiro is clearly silver colored, and others were it is clearly golden colored (from reflections?). For example, a picture purported to be of the Botafumeiro in the library is found at:

Also, I have found some accounts that the Botafumeiro weighs 58 Kg, and others that it weighs 80 Kg. Given that a physics study of the Botafumeiro quotes 80Kg, I think that this might be more accurate. I have also seen varying quotes of the height of the Botafumeiro, from 1.6 m to 2 meters or so. Another question: When is the Botafumeiro employed? Some accounts claim it is used only on special occasions, but some foreign language sites imply that it swings daily at 12 noon. What is the truth? Does anyone know the connection of the Road Rally of the same name and the restaurant of the same name to the censer? --Filll 18:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

As to the height, 1.60 m seems much closer to reality than 2 m if you look at this picture of a tiraboleiro and the botufeiro and try to compare their lengths :

[1] JoJan 19:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Reply to Filll

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I too was puzzled by the same question and the seeming contradictions. I think the solution comes from the fact that there seems to be at least two of these censors in existence at Santiago de Compostela. There is the famous one (the Botafumeiro) which is stored at the Library (is it the Cathedral Library?), which is only used on special occasions. There is also at least one regular thurible which is used the rest of the time (daily?). The regular one seems to be more silver in colour, whereas the Botafumeiro is the more golden looking one (although it is plated with silver). I think if you want to see the famous Botafumeiro, you have to be there on a special occasion though, but you can attend the service any day at noon to see the ceremony with the regular one. See Botafumeiro page, where I quote:-

"There is another large thurible used in the other masses carried out in the cathedral, called "La Alcachofa" (literally, "The Artichoke")[6] or "La Repollo" (literally, "The Cabbage").[7] La Alcachofa is a silver-colored metal censer. It was created in 1971 by the sacred art artisans working under the craftsman Luis Molina Acedo."

I hope this helps.

However, this same Botafumeiro Wikipedia page also claims that it is only the second largest in the world, whereas the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela page claims it is the largest. One of these pages is clearly wrong and needs correcting. I've made a note in the Cathedral Wikipedia text to flag this, but someone with more knowledge on this can look into this and make the judgement. The largest is from Germany apparently, and size and weight is listed, which makes me believe it is real, but needs the sources checking for accuracy before this cathedral page is updated.

Mike 80.229.144.242 (talk) 23:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Northern façade

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The Spanish version of this article says that the statue of the king on the northern façade is Alfonso III. The English version says Alfonso II. Which is right? Geraldkelly (talk) 21:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Rough translation from the Spanish? Nope.

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The template says that section 2 Exterior of the Cathedral is a rough translation from the Spanish, but actually (strange as it may seem) it is a rough translation from the Galician (Gallego). I have altered the template accordingly. The part about the "original" article being in Spanish, depends what you mean by "original". I've left that part alone, so it says, "translated from the Galician, original article in Spanish". If that makes sense.

Anyone who knows Spanish and Portuguese can translate Galician, and I'll try to help out if I get back here before someone else does. Mathglot (talk) 05:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

K, the way the template is set up, I had to put original = Gallego in the sidebar. They meant the other kind of "original". Mathglot (talk) 05:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

still needs further editing

  • I attempted that copy editing before reading this. There may be a couple places where I misinterpreted what was said, but in other places I removed small bits which seemed rather inconsequential. Jzsj (talk) 07:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Origin of the name "campostela"

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I believe compostela is derived from the Latin campus stellae, meaning "field of stars". I was surprised that this isn't mentioned in the article. However, I don't have a reference so I will leave the suggestion here for someone more familiar with the subject. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 02:13, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply