Talk:Sangsari language

Referencing Claims of Similarity

The similarity with Saka might be possible (not "Sakai", which is an Austro-Asiatic language), but a reference is needed. The claim that Sangsari is similar to South Slavic is unbelievable since there has never been contact. Any similarity with South Slavic is pure coincidence. (Taivo (talk) 06:15, 29 November 2009 (UTC))

Says who you? I am helping a Linguist Prof. who is working on a new book about Sangsari language. We have collected 35,000 words, this is a 2 year project and I know what I am saying here. By Sakai I mean the language of Saka (Oriental Scythian)tribes who belongs to Iranian people.

I am and have been a professor of Linguistics for over 30 years, specializing in historical linguistics. While I can appreciate that there might be a connection between Saka and Sangsari, you need to reference it with a reliable source. Your linguistic professor's original research does not count here (just as my own does not count), except as it has been published in a peer-reviewed source. A South Slavic connection is fantasy. It is quite clear that you have no idea where the South Slavic languages are spoken. The South Slavic languages are spoken in Bulgaria, Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, and Slovenia, not in "southern Russia". (Taivo (talk) 06:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC))

Unless you have reliable sources to back up your unsubstantiated claims, stop inserting them into the article. (Taivo (talk) 07:15, 29 November 2009 (UTC))

Read WP:RS and WP:OR. No one cares if you are helping a professor write a book. Unless you have published sources that state what you are trying to assert, you cannot insert them into Wikipedia. As far as I can tell from your edits here and at Proto-Indo-Iranian you know very little about linguistics. Some of your statements are just plain wrong. Stop your edit warring. (Taivo (talk) 07:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC))

Once again, User:SorenShadow, your claims for the putative relationship between Saka and Sangsari must be backed up by reliable published sources. Working as a research assistant to someone who is writing a book on Sangsari does not make you a reliable source. Since Saka is generally classified in Eastern Iranian and Sangsari is part of the Semnani group of Western Iranian, such a claim especially needs reliable sources before it can be put here. (Taivo (talk) 06:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC))

If you can read Persian then I will provide a source for you about roots of Sangsari langauge, but unfortunately I do not have an English one at the moment. If you go to Persian section of wikipedia you will see some information about Sangsari language. Sangsaris are remnants of Saka(oriental Scythian)who were settled in southern parts of Alborz mountain by Persian kings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SorenShadow (talk • contribs) 06:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but your word is not good enough for use in Wikipedia. You must provide a reference to a reliable source. If it is in Persian, you must provide a translation HERE on the Talk Page first so that it can be discussed. Do not delete the sourced information that I have placed on the page. It is all from two reliable, published sources. Discuss any changes you wish to make here first. (Taivo (talk) 06:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC))

I didn't delete your sources, it might be some mistake or error. My father speaks this language and it is totally different from Semnani language. Semnani speakers and Sangsari speakers can not understand each others the only way for communication is through modern Persian which is official language of Iran. The Persian source is History of Sangsar by Prof Cheraghali Sangsari and has published in 1992 in Iran. This person also has published a Sangsari dictionary. I will try to find the source online and add a brief translation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SorenShadow (talk • contribs) 06:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

You deleted the bibliographic reference I had added and the section on Phonology based on Lecoq. This article makes no claim that Sangseri is mutually intelligible with Lasgerdi and the other Semnani group of languages. (Taivo (talk) 07:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC))

I was surprised I thought you did it, I say again it may be an error because I did not delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SorenShadow (talk • contribs) 07:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Now you delete my source which I posted here, didn't you?

You need to be careful when editing. Here is where you deleted all that information. I deleted a link that did not work. If you are going to provide links, you need to make sure that they work. (Taivo (talk) 07:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC))

Here is a link to some information about the books of Prof. Azami Sangsari. http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL1629154A/Cheragh_Ali_Azami --23:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)99.125.249.166 (talk)Soren