Talk:Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands

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Amelia Earhart in captivity on Saipan

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For more information on the hypothesis that Amelia Earhart died on Saipan, see http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/ResearchPapers/AEinMarianas.html for a comprehensive overview. There are mutiple variations of the hypothesis, based on oral and written accounts by Saipanese natives as well as US soldiers who fought on Saipan: that Amelia Earhart flew to Saipan by mistake and was subsequently held captive by Japanese soldiers; that Amelia landed her plane in the Marshall Islands and was later rescued by a Japanese ship; that AE was incarcerated in the Garapan prison where she died of malnutrition and dysentery; that AE was executed by the Japanese and buried on either Saipan or Tinian; and that Earhart's Electra was found at a secret US government-owned hangar in Saipan, and then burned to smithereens by the US military to prevent it from falling into Japanese hands.

As it stands, there is no hard evidence to confirm the Amelia-in-the-Marianas hypothesis. There are several factors to consider when rejecting this hypothesis. First, the Japanese cooperated in the search for Amelia Earhart by sending a research vessel to Saipan to investigate rumors that Amelia Earhart flew to Saipan by accident, but could not find Amelia or her plane (see http://pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/electra/earhart/ for more info). Second, the Japanese military had a number of aircraft of similar design to Earhart's Electra, not the least of which was the Tachikawa Ki-56, a license-built version of the Super Electra, which in turn was derived from Earhart's Electra. And third, the amount of fuel remaining reported by AE means that the aviatrix did not have enough fuel to fly to the Marianas or any other island archipelago in Micronesia. To be fair, TIGHAR-sponsored excavations on Tinian in November 2004 failed to find any bones that would suggest that AE spent her last days in the Marianas. 68.4.28.33 (talk) 03:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Vahe DemirjianReply

Language

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What Language is spoken in this land? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dprugh (talkcontribs) 08:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Name of Colonial Periods

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Please consider:

The period when Saipan was controlled by the Spanish is called the Spanish colonial period. The period when Saipan was controlled by the Germans is called the German colonial period. The period when Saipan was controlled by the Japanese is called the Japanese colonial period.

but...

The period when Saipan was controlled by the US is NOT called the US colonial period.

Is uniformity of descriptions not a goal of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.155.205.54 (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

You may have a point, but you made it very poorly by making a header in Saipan very long and argumentative. A heading in an encyclopedia shouldn't contain a question. Do you have any sources that call it "US colonialism", is there evidence that this was done against the will of the population? - RoyBoy 00:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Spree Killing on Saipan

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I removed the Spree killing from Modern Saipan history. Unfortunately many places have spree killings, to define Saipan's modern day history with only info about murder is bad POV. I will try to work on Modern Saipan history section when time requirements allow me.Sprinkler21 (talk) 04:02, 28 February 2015 (UTC)Sprinkler21Reply

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Pre-European Contact

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It is important to fill in the history of the human beings who were the inhabitants of this island before European contact. As it stands, one has the impression that there are some old artifacts of human culture, then the island was abandoned until the Spanish arrived. For instance, Austronesian-language speakers, who had been living on the island for quite some time before Europeans, Japanese, and others occupied it, must have been the objects of historical investigation. Even if the evidence is scant, the article should provide clear information concerning human culture in this period. One can have the impression that the author(s) has/have omitted the history of pre-European inhabitants of Saipan intentionally, even if that is indeed not the intent. A look at certain other versions of this article on Wikipedia shows that this omission is widespread, perhaps because those versions are based on the English-language article.

It would be desirable for an expert on the pre-European culture of the Marianas Islands to fill in this section with support from scholarly sources.

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Ethnic groups

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Ethnic groups don't add up 50.9% Asian 33.6% Pacific Islander 2.1% White 0.2% others Total 86.8% !?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.234.137 (talk) 14:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

This is still an issue 107.150.22.31 (talk) 05:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Population

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Based on the controversy around immigration, the lead needs to be far more specific about population: U.S. citizens, other permanent residents, other transient population, however that is best denominated. — MaxEnt 19:36, 25 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Failed reunification with Guam?

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Broadly per WP:LEAD, I've tentatively trimmed[1] from the lead an unsourced claim that is absent from the main text about "failing to reunify with Guam". Appropriately sourced content might be helpful for the main text? 86.174.206.88 (talk) 12:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply