Talk:Saint Croix

General

The NASA photo looks okay, but the orientation is flipped North to South (i.e. South is at the top, North at the bottom). I'm not sure how to correct this, but if someone else knows, please feel free. Wrodina 03:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Done. I rotated the image. You may need to clear your cache to see the change and north is not quite straight up. Rmhermen 04:41, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

US Immigration

Do US citizens need to show a passport upon returning, not sure about that?

A passport is Not needed but recommended, for faster processing, to return to the US mainland. No passport is needed when entering the USVI from the US mainland. The Crow (talk) 10:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

You do not need a passport to enter or return while traveling to USVI, if you are a US citizen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.99.181 (talk) 12:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Cleaned up the Transportation section a bit. Wrodina 05:53, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

St. Thomas is at Saint Thomas, United States Virgin Islands, but St. Croix is here at Saint Croix. Should St. Croix have the same treatment? RickK 05:27, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Annals plug

That section is unabashed advertisement. Removing it entirely. 4/13/09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.173.138 (talk) 20:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

pronunciation?

[krwa]? [kwa]? [kroi]? [kroiz]? [kroiks]?

[kroi], I think. Rmhermen 17:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, kroi —Xanderer 01:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

english pronunciation remains an enigma to me: In this case: Yes, kroi

kro seems clear. But how to pronounce the following i?

• 1 like i in I don't know?, a-i? resulting in kro-ai?
• 2 like i in it, resulting in cro-i, as in coincidence?
• 3 the french way: like a in after, rezulting in cro-a ?
• 4 croix similar to coin?

User: Hans, presently far from home, unable to remember my PW--83.13.35.50 (talk) 10:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Croix rhymes with boy. Odd but true. Estienne (talk) 11:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Danish-American transaction

I added a {{fact}} tag to the statement that the sale of the islands resulted from the involvement of both Denmark and the USA in the First World War. I can understand that the USA might have feared, however remote, a German takeover of the islands through invasion of Denmark. However, how can the sale result from Denmark's involvement if Denmark were always neutral? Nyttend 16:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow, no-one seems to be following up this. I very much agree with you: Denmark had no problems staying neutral in WW1. The US wanted this island, and I would also assume this not is because they feared hostile bases in the specific, but out of imperialist thinking ("backyard") in general. Greswik 15:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

But according to history it was more need than want. The Danish government had tried several times to sell the Danish West Indies to the US during the 1800s. But for one reason or another it never worked. 10:22, 2 March 2011. (HLW) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.115.236.104 (talk)

Point and counterpoint

"In the late 1990s an attempt was made to legislate the definition of "Crucian" as anyone who could trace their ancestry to 1927, the year in which Virgin Islanders were given U.S. citizenship. This effort, by a select group of nationalist senators, eventually failed after much public outcry."

The person who wrote the above would define a national identity Virgin Islander ignoring the one used by the United Nations. The issue was not who is Cruzan but rather who is a Virgin Islander. According to the United Nations the (U.S.) Virgin Islands are a distinct nation occupied albeit with consent of most descendants of pre-acquisition Virgin Islanders by the United States.

Without such a definition it is difficult to tell if the involvement of the Virgin Islands was a success for the families who lived there then. While it is accepted generally that there is such a thing as a Puerto Rican or say a St. Lucian there are those who like the author above would have only the American citizenship have any value. This position is held typically by relocated Puerto Ricans, Americans and those West Indians whose families have arrived post acquisition and do not have a Danish Virgin Islands legacy. There are families who have been in the Virgin Islands since then and consider thsemselves dual citizens.

Immigration to St. Croix

Well I do know that there was an influx of Trinidadians who worked in oil refinaries in the southern caribbean who also came to St. Croix when the refinary came. Some also helped with the road construction and design back in the 60s and if you ever get a chance to visit Tobago you would see many likenesses. There is a pretty good size of the population now that is of Trinidadian heritage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.115.236.104 (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Do we have any more information on immigration to St. Croix, I know there is a Puerto Rican community there for instance. Does any one have further sources to flesh out the gaps in the population sections.Mad05963 21:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Following a number of civil unrest incidents (Ponce massacre, Jayuya uprising, etc) a large number of PR natives relocated to STX. During WWII, the US Navy purchased much of Vieques for a base (never built), forcing many out. Today there are substantiantial communities of first-, second-, and third-generation emigrants from PR and Vieques (the distinction is definitely made) on STX. Also, there's a growing Middle Eastern population.

Am not adding this as I have no citable sources, but wanted to make note of this regardless. I lived on STX for a year and worked with people from all of these populations--I learned quite a bit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.89.132 (talk) 05:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Location

What is this sentence supposed to mean?

"St. Croix lies at 17°45′N, 64°45′W, the western and easternmost point in the United States."

Harrier233 20:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC) In Answer to Harrier233, I believe the intent of the author of that statement meant to say southern (not western) as you note the Western makes no sense!! this IMHO Larry On STX 14:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

wat 2601:346:900:30F0:C03B:93B8:1F4F:D19E (talk) 01:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

southern most point is in American Samoa, not the USVI.72.27.162.106 16:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

New photo

Hi, so I took some great photos around the island and after putting them into a montage and uploading them (i uploaded the originals also) I was considering placing them somewhere in the article, near the satellite image and the map. Feedback would be good before I took any steps, however. here is the photo:

EastOfWest (talk) 17:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

“Crime” section

Hello.

If you review the page history, you will see that there is some disagreement over that section. I would like to request comment from some editors as to whether or not this section should be included in this page. Thanks. 69.155.129.170 (talk) 05:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

The material in question is the following:

66 homicides committed across the territory in 2010 is 10 more than in 2009, and continues (by a factor of 10) to make the Virgin Islands the most violent place in the United States and the second most dangerous place on earth, on a per-capita basis. The territory has about 110,000 residents; half of both murders and population are on St. Croix according to the latest projections, which means the Virgin Islands' per-capita homicide rate is 60 homicides per 100,000 people. The United States has a nationwide rate of only 5.2 homicides per 100,000, more than 10 times the national average. Compared with the most recent statistics available, which are from 2008, that number would rank the territory second in the world in homicides, behind only Honduras, for the number of homicides per 100,000 residents.

... --Noleander (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Keep, but generalize - Having a large paragraph dedicated to crime may violate the WP:UNDUE guideline, which says that articles cannot devote too much information (proportionally) to a single sub-topic. On the other hand, information about demographics and statistics about quality-of-life are perfectly appropriate for articles on countries or states. For comparison, WP has articles devoted to crime in states, such as Crime in California or Crime in New York. And WP has Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico. I recommend that the undue problem be addressed by expanding the paragraph to discuss a broader range of information:

• The legal system (judges, courts, public defenders, jails, prisons) - 1 or 2 sentences
• The police system (number of police, etc) - 1 or 2 sentences
• Crime statistics - 1 or 2 sentences

If sources state that St Croix's murder rate is 2nd highest in the world, that is significant and should be mentioned. --Noleander (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

It should be mentioned (perhaps shortened). Also a comparison with a smaller U.S. area would be useful like the highest city, New Orleans (49 per 100,000) or highest state, Louisiana (11 per 100,000). Rmhermen (talk) 21:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Ethnic groups

Puerto Rican is an ethnic group? Could someone explain, correct, and/or fix that? I believe it should be "hispanic" or even "latin american" instead? DavidCollantes (talk) 12:39, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Why wouldn't Puerto Rican be an ethnic group?--Batmacumba (talk) 17:21, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Languages spoken and since when...

I found an excellent web site with useful info about the language; http://www.vinow.com/general_usvi/culture/virgin-islands-language/ Their research shows there are some errors in this article.

There may be other Web sites with research about language that will be useful. I'll do some editing on this topic tomorrow. Peter K Burian (talk) 02:44, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

What errors have you noticed in this article? Vgmaster (talk) 14:39, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

White Tailed Deer

St. Croix has a plethora of wildlife animals. A large portion of these species were not native to the Islands but brought by peoples. Included in this is the White Tailed Deer, or also known as the Virginia Deer. They were originally brought to the Islands by Danish colonists in the 1700's for hunting purposes. The species are originally from the southern part of the United States. So there is an assumption that the deer were brought from there. Present day, the deer breed and live year round on all three of the U.S. Virgin Islands. The only predators are dogs and cars. The deer have the ability to swim and have adapted very well to the climate and conditions of the Islands. Their name derives from the white patch of fur on the under side of the tail. The deer expose this patch while they are running. Does reach a weight of 80 lbs on average. Bucks can grow much larger (up to 300 lbs) than does and have antlers that they shed annually. They forage for leaves, twigs, fruits, vegetables, and herbs at twilight or late evening. Deer can be devastating to cultivating farms. There large eyes help them see at twilight. Their sense of hearing and small are even more sensitive. Because of the tropical climate of the US Virgin Islands mating is not seasonal, but may be regulated due to season of precipitation. In the US Virgin Islands, there has been a doe sighting every month. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leahber (talk • contribs) 01:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Unless the white-tailed deer of the Virgin Islands differ from those elsewhere (e.g. island dwarfism), their description can be mostly omitted. —Tamfang (talk) 20:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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