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editRug - Rus (another Germanic tribe, which founded Novgorod and Kievan Rus states)
are they related ?
- Yes, they were both Scandinavian tribes, but they are not related not by name :).--Wiglaf 2 July 2005 12:32 (UTC)
Also connected to the Rugians (Rygi) are the Ulm(e)rugi, Holmrugi (Ulmgeri, Holmgeri), some lived in Kulmigeria. Labbas 5 October 2006
This is rather all occult nonsense... Rujani were Slavic tribes, Pomorjani ("by the Sea/Ocean"); "Pomerians" who lived around the city called Mikulinbor (later Meckleburg). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.143.111.196 (talk) 19:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Doubts: Rugians from Rogaland
editThose references to old Swedish encyclopedias aren't as reliable as commonly believed. They tend to refer to old nationalist theories drawing too speculative conclusions from very weak connections. Such as: rug may actually have had some meaning that was shared in the words that later become Rugians and Rogaland. But that doesn't mean that Rugians came from Rogaland, like the theory that Goths came from Götaland is disputed in Sweden. Rursus 12:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Of course, it is infected in Sweden. Insecure matters such as these are safe targets for anti-nationalistic scholars who want to score points against nationalistic ones. Dick Harrison is a good example.--Berig 12:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- It would be very wise to add citations from known good work on this one. ;) 87.248.4.221 (talk) 23:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I just saw in a modern book on archaeology (2008) that scholars "still" place the Rugians in Rogaland. Could Rursus please provide any references against this connection?--Berig (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- It would be very wise to add citations from known good work on this one. ;) 87.248.4.221 (talk) 23:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Disambiguation
editBecause both the Germanic Rugi and the Slavic Rani have both been known as "Rugians", the article about the Germanic tribe should be moved to Rugi and Rugians should become a disambiguation page. Olessi 21:43, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
remove the were
editPlease remove the words that make it sound past tense, I mean a entire ethnic group can't die can it?--User:Xgmx (SpEaK 2 mE) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.244.36.142 (talk) 04:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- It can disappear by blending. —Tamfang (talk) 06:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Ukrainian cossacks - Rugii
editB. Khmel'nitskiy:
(ukr. text:) {{"Навіть Стародавній Рим (що може називатися матір’ю всіх європейських міст), який володів багатьма державами й монархіями і пишався колись своїми шістьмастами сорока п’ятьма тисячами війська, в давні віки взяла й чотирнадцять літ тримала далеко менша проти згаданої збірна бойова сила русів із Ругії від Балтицького, або Німецького помор’я, на чолі яких стояв тоді князь Одонацер,— сталося це в році 470 після Різдва господнього. Отож ми йдемо за прикладом наших давніх предків, отих старобутніх русів, і хто може заборонити нам бути воїнами і зменшити нашу лицарську відвагу!"[1] }}
Б. Хмельницький Білоцерковний универсал Б. Хмельницького —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vognejar (talk • contribs) 18:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
References
why Lithuania?
edit- The tribal name "Rugii" or "Rygir" is a derivate of the Old Norse term for rye, rugr ....
- In modern Lithuanian, the word "rugys" (singular) and "rugiai" (plural), is a term for rye.
What makes the Lithuan cognate more relevant or interesting than, say, English rye or Bulgarian rŭž or Welsh rhyg or Estonian rukis? —Tamfang (talk) 06:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)