Talk:Royal Rumble (1994)

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GCF, I added some free-use pics and the table of other on-screen talent...I hope that is okay. The pics (with the exception of Hart) aren't necessarily from the pay-per-view or time period, but I still think it helps spice up the article to see what a few of the wrestlers look like. Feel free to remove them if you disagree. I also tagged the trivia...try and move all the relevant info into the prose. Good work! Nikki311 19:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

The Scott Steiner one should eventually be changed because he looked nothing like that in 1994. He wouldn't get the huge muscles and blond hair until 1997. He still had long brown hair and a more realistic (i.e. not steroid) physique in 1994. Same with Shawn Michaels. TJ Spyke 22:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I was coming in here to say the same thing. That's almost a whole different Steiner.«»bd(^talk _stalk) 02:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

"Shawn Michaels’ assistance in eliminating Diesel from the Royal Rumble foreshadowed the split between the two at Survivor Series 1994." - has there been any confirmation that Michaels tried to eliminate Diesel. The citation given doesn't support this. Epbr123 (talk) 18:56, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You're right. They don't. The official WWE website says that five wrestlers eliminated Diesel, although it doesn't specify who they were. The cameras conclusively showed Bigelow, Mabel, Plugg and Crush, which means that they must recognize Michaels as having played a part in the elimination. However, I haven't yet found a source that directly says that Michaels helped eliminate Diesel. I'll continue to look for a source, but I've rewritten the relevant statements for the time being (in the Event and Aftermath sections) to reflect the uncertainty. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Even if Michaels was involved (it's been a few months since I watch the 1994 RR), it's wouldn't be worth noting about the split. WWE has said many times that the RR is every man for himself, and we have seen tag team partners eliminate each other (like at the 2000 event where Rikishi eliminated his allies Too Cool). TJ Spyke 02:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

True, it is every man for himself. However, if what happens between two wrestlers in the Royal Rumble match advances a storyline, I don't see why it wouldn't be essential to the Aftermath section. GaryColemanFan (talk) 03:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

If they actually mentioned that in storylines (like Diesel saying something about it), that's fine. I just want to avoid OR and say it was foreshadowing if it wasn't planned. TJ Spyke 03:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I think the WWF made it pretty clear that it was planned. They showed replays of the Royal Rumble footage to build up the tension, and the growing animosity between Michaels and Diesel was one of the big storylines in 1994. GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

The point is moot anyway since Michaels didn't play an active part in Diesel's elimination. Unlike the other four wrestlers, Michaels stayed in the back, watching and doing nothing. Str1977 ^(talk) 11:55, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Ahem, that's original research that requires back up. You can't just say that and expect to be believed. If sourced material states that you are wrong, you're just going to have to accept it unless you have a countering reliable source. Mega Z090 (talk) 05:43, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Ahem, the currently used source (which is basically just a guy on the net writing what he sees on the screen) doesn't contradict me - the source focuses on whether Michaels moved in to help Diesel or to those about to throw him out. Also, it is not original research if it is just relating what obviously happened. Go, watch the match. The main thing Michaels did was keep away until the last minute. Str1977 ^(talk) 06:34, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

You are making your own interpretation of what's on the video. That's original research. Obvious to who? You. Enough said. Get a proper source. Mega Z090 (talk) 03:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Consistency

Take a look at the other Royal Rumble pages and you see they do not have the detail as the 1994 page. Does the 1994 page really need this level of detail. Shouldn't the other Rumble pages be consistent? If we don't want to delete from the 1994 page, we should add the same level of detail to the other years. Bruinfan13 01:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I reverted your blanking. We at WP:PW are trying to expand PPV articles, but we only have a limited amount of time and members and can't do them all at once. I think the person who started expanding this one said they were doing so since it was one of their favorite PPVs. Eventually the others will get done too. TJ Spyke 06:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Successful good article nomination

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of October 21, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass

2. Factually accurate?: Pass

3. Broad in coverage?: Pass

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Article stability? {{{stable}}}

6. Images?: Pass

Well written article and relitivly easy to understand from a non-wrestling point of view. Does require another couple of images to say, illustrate a "casket" match and the even poster would be good as other wrestling PPV articles have them. I shall pass the imaes criteria now, but may re-assess as a fail if this is not rectified. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Lucy-marie (talk) 12:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Diesel ties the record?

It says in the article that Diesel tied the record for most eliminations with 7, but in the 1989 Royal Rumble Hulk Hogan eliminated 9 people, thus setting a record neither Diesel nor Yokozuna (who had eliminated 7 the year before setting the false record that Diesel tied) tied nor broke. Can someone fix that? 118.42.219.133 (talk) 05:11, 8 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.42.219.133 (talk) 04:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The article says that Diesel tied the record for most consecutive eliminations. He tied Hogan, who had set the record with seven consecutive eliminations in 1989 (en route to the 9 total eliminations that you mentioned). I hope this clears things up. GaryColemanFan (talk) 07:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

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Tag Team Title Match

Although the ring announcer said that the referee's decision that the match was over and The Quebecers retained their titles, they were never declared as the winners. Does that really count as a win?

They are recognized as the winners, per [1]. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)