Talk:Ronnie Peterson
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editRe the clean up tag: I don't know in what way the article needs to be cleaned up I think it looks good. --Fred-Chess July 5, 2005 02:08 (UTC)
- I've tidied up the English, broken this into sections, and provided wiki links. I think this is probably what the cleanup was looking for. NickF 6 July 2005 19:33 (UTC)
Inconsistencies?
editThe article has two conflicting statements:
"He was trapped in the burning wreck, but Hunt, Regazzoni and Depailler managed to free him before he received more than minor burns, while track marshals were extinguishing the car. He was dragged free and laid in the middle of the track "
but also later on:
"Sid Watkins and his medical team headed over Peterson's car to extract him from the wreckage."
Who really helped Peterson out of his car? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.166.78.109 (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
His career and death
editRight now I think that the text about Peterson's death is too long compared with the text about his career. I will try to write a little more about the career.
I don´t think that the statement that RP would have survived if he had gotten medical attention sooner is correct, IF the cause of death was fat embolism. They are formed much later in the process, and 15 a 15 min delay of care would not have done any difference. Cd (talk) 17:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
His surname is "Pettersson", not "Peterson"
editRonnie Peterson - complete name: Bengt Ronnie Pettersson. Source for "Pettersson" is Paul Sheldon "Formula 1 Register Record Book 1966", p. 140, I quote: "... an excellent entry including the young Ronnie Pettersson - it was only later that he adopted the English spelling of his name."
So his name is Pettersson (i.e. usual Swedish spelling), nothing else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.62.244 (talk) 09:02, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think so. As far as I know he was actually born Peterson. It's odd, but it's not that odd.
- However, I'm a bit skeptic to "Ronnie Peterson married former top model Barbro Edwardsson". I thought she was an ordinary secretary that he met in his hometown. It is of course possible that she had done some modeling, but I don't think top model is correct. 83.248.26.40 10:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- The headstone on his grave in Örebro says "Peterson". His wife Barbro and a couple of other family members are buried there too, all under the name "Peterson". http://www.ronniepeterson.se/subc/eng/orframe.html Flanker235 (talk) 14:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
James Hunt's comments re Riccardo Patrese
editI am concerned that the comments attributed to James Hunt in regard of Riccardo Patrese are subjective at best, and add little if anything to the content in repect of Peterson's death.
To clarify, I concur that Hunt (and others) did condemn Patrese for his alleged part in the accident contributing to Peterson's injuries, but the further comment that Hunt engaged in "bitter diatribe" against Patrese as a commentator, is, in my subjective opinion, unfounded.
It is true that Hunt was not shy about mentioning the incident, and indeed apportioning blame, but over the years his opinion certainly mellowed, and (I cannot give an example citation) he came to be of the opinion that even if the accident was Patrese's "fault" (and I believe that he was persuaded over time otherwise) that Peterson's death certainly was not.
--62.64.236.17 21:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC) Dave Wright
In the recently published book "Memories Of James Hunt" by Christopher Hilton, one of Hunt's broadcasting colleagues had this to say :
"After years of being a commentator James discovered the Press Room. He came to me after one race and said 'this is amazing. Do you know they produce lap times for everybody's laps throughout the entire race?' I said 'Yes, I've been picking them up for years James'. He said 'apparently, there's a place called the Press Room where I can get all this stuff. I shall have to send someone up there to get it for me of course.' He said 'you know, this is absolutely fantastic because now I can prove Patrese's useless rather than just tell everybody' ". I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions about Hunt's 'vendetta' against Patrese. Lec CRP1 11:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Bit of a necro-comment this (i.e. this is an old and dead conversation!), but Hunt was still laying into Patrese in his commentary as late at the 1992 South African Grand Prix. As I recall, Murray was rather embarrassed by the whole thing. 4u1e (talk) 10:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
British English versus American English?
editThis article seems to be written as a British racing commentator from the 1960's might've spoken it. Unfortunately, to us Yanks, the third party references, passive voice, etc are very much out of style (as it were)(grins). I cleaned out a bit of it.
In addition, there is a real need to document the heck out of this article with footnotes. There are many things in here that need citations.Twohlford 03:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Triva secion?
editI merged part of the trivia info into the main body of the article. The remaining needs citations, and really doesn't add to the article. I'm voting that we kill off the rest of the trivia section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twohlford (talk • contribs) 01:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Done. I kept the part about the statue, and got shot of the rest since it seemed either irrelevant (in the case of Brixel's statue of Senna) or uncited (the flowers statement). That can go back in if someone finds a cite. Bretonbanquet (talk) 01:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Any Children?
editI know for a fact that as also the article states that he was married to ex model Barbro Edwardsson until his untimely death from injuries from the 1978 Italian Grand Prix. Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether Ronnie and Barbro had any children together?
Spokenwordsegment (talk) 12:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Based on my research I found out that he and Barbro had a daughter going by the name of Nina, who was born in November in 1975. I got some evidence here:
http://www.ronniepeterson.se/subc/eng/orframe.html
http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/418/510/
Lostinsidemyworld (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
It´s not a big thing, but Nina is since long married Kennedy and in my opinion should be adressed as Nina Kennedy and not Peterson.
/Mattias Svensson Hvide-Fos 12:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.228.19.56 (talk)
Bengt?
edithttp://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Ronnie_Peterson&diff=prev&oldid=16243833
Do you really think so? I'm surprised... Formerly very active, now only occasional editor (talk) 18:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Numerous reliable sources including 8W, ChicaneF1, IMDb(!) and Alan Henry's Peterson biography "Superswede" all confirm Peterson's birth name as "Bengt Ronnie Peterson" (although some write it as "Bengt-Ronnie", i.e. with a hyphen). DH85868993 (talk) 21:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Picture has tree growing out of car
editThe picture of the statue of Ronnie Peterson in Örebro, by Richard Brixel has a tree growing out of the car. It is a horrible shot and should be replaced. Buy any standards the shot is awful.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 14:16, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- I understand you haven't seen the statue and where it's placed. Unfortunately that's the best to make out of it. Today it's even been moved some meters so it's standing next to an electric post full of graffiti. The city is really making their best to humiliate Ronnie Peterson. In my opinion it should be moved to the roundabout at the university, which is also close to where Ronnie's grave is. Närking (talk) 17:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Initial March career
editThe lead states that Peterson started his F1 career with a 3-year spell with March factory team. This conflicts with the results table, which shows him driving privateer Marches in 1970, before driving for the works team in 1971 and 1972. DH85868993 (talk) 01:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed that yesterday when I was correcting his number of podiums, then it sailed out of my mind and I forgot it. Worth adjusting the wording, no? Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Alan Henry's Ronnie Peterson - SuperSwede indicates that Peterson was contracted to March Engineering, but an arrangement was reached whereby Colin Crabbe would run his car for the first year. So I'm not quite sure how the wording should be updated. DH85868993 (talk) 08:42, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Specific article on death
editAn editor had proposed that the article Death of Ronnie Peterson (Draft:Death of Ronnie Peterson) be created. Intereseted editors are invited to respond to the proposal at Talk:1978 Italian Grand Prix.
SSSB (talk) 08:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: Creator has been identified as a long-term sockpuppeteer. Blocked and draft deleted accordingly. Eagleash (talk) 04:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)