Talk:Roman Catholic Bishop of Arundel and Brighton

Why the double name?

Why did they decide to call the diocese "Arundel and Brighton" rather than simply "Arundel", which is where its cathedral has always been located? What is the significance of Brighton? Proteus (Talk) 16:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 27 January 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move, due to differing interpretations of MOS:JOBTITLES (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 03:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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• Roman Catholic Bishop of Arundel and Brighton → Roman Catholic bishop of Arundel and Brighton
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Augsburg → Roman Catholic bishop of Augsburg
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Elmham → Roman Catholic bishop of Elmham
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Lancaster → Roman Catholic bishop of Lancaster
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Leeds → Roman Catholic bishop of Leeds
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Lindisfarne → Roman Catholic bishop of Lindisfarne
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Nottingham → Roman Catholic bishop of Nottingham
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Plymouth → Roman Catholic bishop of Plymouth
• Roman Catholic Bishop of Shrewsbury → Roman Catholic bishop of Shrewsbury

– MOS:CAPS Elizium23 (talk) 18:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. Jack Frost (talk) 07:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Following the "(Discuss)" link from the multi-move brings me here so I assume this is the place for discussion on all these RC bishops.

Oppose: "Bishop of X" is a specific title, so the upper case "B" seems appropriate even in the disambiguated version of the title which is used as the article title. I note that there are 9 articles with titles "Anglican Bishop of ..." and none with "Anglican bishop of ..." (and vast numbers of redirects from both, mostly to the dioces concerned). PamD 12:50, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

PamD, per WP:Other stuff exists and MOS:JOBTITLES, the title is preceded by a modifier and should not be capitalized. Elizium23 (talk) 12:56, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per Elizium23 and MOS:JOBTITLES. "Roman Catholic Bishop of X" is not an unmodified formal title. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • "Bishop of X (Roman Catholicism)" might be OK. — BarrelProof (talk) 02:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Posts held by a single person at a time are usually capitalised. They are not generic job titles. Point three of MOS:JOBTITLES applies here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support. The rules given in MOS:JOBTITLES are nonsensical. But the examples provide clearer guidance. All twelve show the job title lower cased. Here is CMOS: "In formal prose and other generic text (as opposed to promotional or ceremonial contexts or a heading), titles are normally lowercased when following a name or used in place of a name." (8.18). CMOS is listed first among the style guides recommmended in our guideline. 5440orSleep (talk) 07:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Necrothesp. Proteus (Talk) 09:30, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.