Talk:Rodney Caston
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Opening line of Article
editOpening line of article states Rodney lives in Seattle, WA. Later in the article, it mentions him working for Southern Methodist University and running for political office in the state of Texas. His campaign website also lists an address in Texas. Article does state that the election he participated in was in 2012.
Is it possible to clarify where the subject of the article currently resides?
Comments from Rodney Caston
edit- info in article validated as correct as of 7/8/2007
Merge to Megatokyo proposal
editWould it perhaps be more useful to merge and redirect this to Megatokyo? It's less useful out of context. --Aranel ("Sarah")]] 20:48, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- No. Rodney Caston's artical would be better seperated. The work Rodney did might clouded and eventually squashed inside a page for MT which would be worse. --ZacBowling 20:21, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- No. Megatokyo is quite big enough, and we shouldn't merge logically distinct subjects unless there is a very good reason. Being "less useful" is decidedly not so. --Maru 02:03, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. All notable information contained in the article already is (and, in fact, explained better) on the Megatokyo article. --Nifboy 23:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
- If by 'notable information' you mean a bare summary of facts which amounts to "Rodney Caston was this dude who helped start up Megatokyo; then he left due to artistic differences", then you are absolutely correct, Nifboy. But that omits all details about what else Caston does, his marriage, his kid, the links... Frankly, this looks to me like an attempt to backdoor the VfD decision. --Maru 02:26, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- "all details about what else Caston does, his marriage, his kid, the links" don't qualify as "notable information." That's my position. --Nifboy 03:06, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- Then you are being dishonest. You are saying that what isn't already in the Megatokyo page isn't notable, and that the page should be wiped, redirecting to Megatokyo. That is a deletion of this article in all but name, since I doubt you will advocate for the "non-notable information" to be added to the Megatokyo article. --Maru 03:10, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- Merge/redirecting and outright deletion are entirely different. Deletion also wipes the history and talk pages, which is why it has to go through VfD first (and keep in mind there was only one keep vote on VfD). So I fail to see how I am being dishonest. --Nifboy 03:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- Which was a full 33% of all votes cast! A plurality! :) But I was using 'delete' in a looser, non-VfD way, to denote removal of information, which as I said previously, you want; and the dishonesty stems from the fact that I think you are hiding this deletion (of information) under the mantle of a merge proposal. --Maru 03:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- No: Caston is a separate entity from megatokyo. Gallagher, the other author, has his own page. --Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 06:36, 2005 August 30 (UTC)
Marriage
editThe sentence on his marriage is unclear: did he use Slashdot or Megatokyo's webpage to propose? --Maru (talk) Contributions 19:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- I googled around, and I couldn't find anything resembling a proposal on the Megatokyo.com domain. If he did so, it would probably have been in the Rant space, which is archived with the strips. So it should still show up on google. I'm not saying it wasn't on Megatokyo, I'm just saying I couldn't find it. Tigger89 03:58, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- So, wouldn't it be better to edit the article instead of saying "...used the main page..." BTW: "Infamously" is meant more ironically here, right? de:äxl
WikiProject class rating
editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Megatokyo vol2.jpg
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Questions with regard to the neutrality of the article
editI'm concerned about the likelihood that any edits based on the following will be reverted unless these concerns are first given a fair hearing. To be honest, I'm also concerned that they may be reverted regardless - but AGF is (for very good reason) one of the more important principles of this encyclopedia.
First: I'm honestly not sure, but would I be correct in assuming that BLP applies to any living person discussed in Wikipedia, not simply to the subject of a given page? Some of the assertions made about Fred Gallagher on this page appear to be in a very murky area, and are poorly sourced or contradict the sources given. In particular:
- "Gallagher was forced to explain the reason for the split... insisting that the breakup was amicable." The wording is less than neutral, and incorrectly asserts that in the source given Gallagher characterized the breakup as "amicable." This is particularly notable given the fact this is being contrasted to both an improperly-sourced accusation of theft and the following sentence.
- "Caston for his part, had a few years ago issued a statement that Fred made the ultimatum that either Rodney sell the company to him or that it be liquidated on the eve of the publishing of the first book." The assertion that Caston made this statement is unsourced. Oddly, it could easily be reworded and sourced to Gallagher - who makes similar assertions in the source just given without casting clear aspersions, as this sentence does.
Second: Given that Caston is only credited on the first two volumes of MegaTokyo in any fashion, why are volumes 3-6 listed on this page as "Books" of his? Further, why are both the lede and the "Fandom" section worded as "He is a co-creator and the original writer of the popular comic book series Megatokyo") rather than the factually-supportable "He is credited as a co-creator and writer of the first volume of the popular comic book series Megatokyo, and as a co-creator of the second volume"? Finally, unless he is claiming credit for volume 3, why is the following in the article: "Volume 3's highest ranking in bookscan is 3 ending February 20, 2005.[17] This broke all previous records for sales of an American manga up to that time."?
Third: "MegaTokyo was one of the largest and most successful early webcomics to transition from online to print; the success of it and other early properties such as Penny Arcade and PvP went on to influence an entire generation of webcomic creators." badly needs to be removed if it can't be sourced. In the same paragraph, "He is credited for the first two published volumes of Megatokyo." is superfluous if the first sentence is reworded to be more accurate as per the second sentence of the second point.
Fourth: I would like to request that if Caston is editing this article, that he stop doing so AT LEAST until he reads http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography. It enumerates some very good reasons this is strongly discouraged, and some of these reasons appear to be in evidence.
2001:558:600A:4B:5413:B752:B795:AB77 (talk) 20:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- If no one responds with concerns, I'll begin editing the problematic areas tomorrow. 73.35.177.173 (talk) 20:33, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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