Talk:Robert Vișoiu
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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Favonian in topic Requested move
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Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 18:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Robert Visoiu → Robert Vișoiu – Please use the Romanian diacritics. Sources from the biggest two Romanian sports newspapers: Prosport, Gazeta Sporturilor Relisted. Favonian (talk) 16:42, 4 August 2013 (UTC). Kronaveter (talk) 09:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Support - uncontroversial, in line with every other Romanian WP:BLP on en.wp. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose. It's English Wikipedia, not Romanian. Outside Romania his name has always written without diacrictics [1] [2], even on his official site. Cybervoron (talk) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- Robert Vișoiu is English, per WP:UE and WP:EN, "German for German politicians," it is the English spelling of Romanian racing driver Robert Vișoiu. With respect en.wp does not do as ru.wp and wikt:transliterate names into Cyrillic, because English and Romanian are already both Latin alphabet languages and English represents Latin alphabets. We cannot have this racing driver as the only Romanian WP:BLP in the encyclopedia with a ASCII#ASCII_printable_characters name simply because he isn't notable enough to appear in hardback books with full fonts. The websites you have cited fail WP:RS as not being "reliable for the statement being made" - a basic-ASCII website isn't reliable for spelling. Sorry. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:24, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I find the comment of Cybervoron hugely disrespectful. The official site is simply not written with diacritics at all. In Romania Vishoiu cannot be used for example like in Germany where you can use "oe" for "ö" for example. What about the German drivers? Nico Hülkenberg, Günther Bechem and Helm Glöckler. Please resolve my request ASAP. Equality or not? Kronaveter (talk) 01:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- "Equality" is not a criterion used for determining page naming. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:12, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- I find the comment of Cybervoron hugely disrespectful. The official site is simply not written with diacritics at all. In Romania Vishoiu cannot be used for example like in Germany where you can use "oe" for "ö" for example. What about the German drivers? Nico Hülkenberg, Günther Bechem and Helm Glöckler. Please resolve my request ASAP. Equality or not? Kronaveter (talk) 01:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Robert Vișoiu is English, per WP:UE and WP:EN, "German for German politicians," it is the English spelling of Romanian racing driver Robert Vișoiu. With respect en.wp does not do as ru.wp and wikt:transliterate names into Cyrillic, because English and Romanian are already both Latin alphabet languages and English represents Latin alphabets. We cannot have this racing driver as the only Romanian WP:BLP in the encyclopedia with a ASCII#ASCII_printable_characters name simply because he isn't notable enough to appear in hardback books with full fonts. The websites you have cited fail WP:RS as not being "reliable for the statement being made" - a basic-ASCII website isn't reliable for spelling. Sorry. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:24, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- Support - Should be uncontroversial, but regardless, we're talking about the proper name, and, actually, OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a valid argument, because that's what the standard procedures for names are based on. You can't dismiss non-English sources completely out of hand either, despite what Cybervoron suggests. In fact, the native-language sources should be the prevalent sources, especially as the Romanian alphabet is a Latin one. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 07:55, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Vișoiu is notable for activities in or representing Romania and his name there is Vișoiu. Strictly speaking, he doesn't have an "English" name. There are some sources that can't type diacritics or have style manuals that prohibit diacritics. Wikipedia does not and, for those readers alarmed by unusual typography, the diacritics can be "read through". i.e., those unfamiliar with them can ignore the comma on the s et al. Wikipedia is a reference work and not a newspaper and need not reflect archaic typographical limitations. — AjaxSmack 01:33, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.