Talk:Roar of the Dragon

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My name is Heidi Pusey and I am a paid student employee of Rachel Helps (BYU) at the Harold B. Lee Library. The library has a collection of Merian C. Cooper's papers, which can be found here. Because this is one of Cooper's films, I thought I'd work on improving the page. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to reach out. COI declarations on userpage. Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Source

To whom it may concern: I have been preparing a production and release section for the article. One of the sources I've used is Hollywood "B" Movies: A Treasury of Spills, Chills & Thrills by John Howard Reid. Here is the Internet Archive link: [1]. The book is published by Lulu Press, which is a self-publishing company that is not considered a vanity press. Reid appears to be a film critic, and while I will be including some details of the film, most of what I'm going to use from the source is a film review I will put in the reception section. If anyone thinks I should not use this source (since it's self-published), please let me know. Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 20:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

We should be careful with books published by LuLu since it is essentially a self-publishing service. However, I think you are right about John Howard Reid being an experienced film journalist. To me, it would make sense to have a brief in-text introfuction like "information on the production is limited, but in his self-published book on Hollywood B Movies, film journalist John Howard Reid mentioned several details...". It might be interesting to see what sources he used, and how much we could go back to those original sources instead of using his self-published book. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Here's another question. One source listed two popular songs that featured in Roar of the Dragon, but when I watched the movie those songs weren't in there. The closest thing was when the characters were listening to swing jazz on the radio. There were no lyrics, which the above-mentioned popular songs have, unless they played only instrumental versions. Any ideas on how I should handle this? Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 19:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

To be fair, this song information came from Reid's book. He got a couple other details wrong, such as the release date, and has no bibliography. The more I think about it, I'm considering just scrapping it as a source; most of the things I got for the production section can be found in other sources, except for the detail about the songs. Most of what I wanted to use from him was his film review; I'm wondering if that's even a good idea anymore. Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 19:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Oh, if some of his facts are wrong, it sounds like it's unreliable for production information. It's hard to get your own opinion wrong, so I think you would be okay to cite the review. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Feedback request

@Rachel Helps (BYU) and @BenBeckstromBYU: I've added what I could to the page (besides the Reid source). Could you take a look at it and let me know what doesn't make sense or feels unnecessary? Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 21:07, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Heidi Pusey BYU it looks good! The plot summary is a bit confusing. You can take a stab at it or I will try to streamline some things on Monday. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:54, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Heidi Pusey BYU I saw your edits to the plot section. It's much clearer now! Nicely done. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)