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Article Name

Although Ricki-Lee has married, this does not mean that we should change the article name. See here - Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Names - it states that the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known. Therefore, I have moved the article back to Ricki-Lee Coulter. Thank you — *Hippi ippi 07:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

When it says that the title should be the most commonly known title, shouldn't it be moved to "Ricki-Lee". That's the name she uses for all her music records. She rarely uses her last name. RaNdOm26 05:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

LGBT rights activists from Australia

Should Ricki-Lee be included in this category? It mentions in the first paragraph (albeit misspelled and unsubstantiated) that she supports gay people and their love. I'm not sure whether this constitues activism or mere support.
I haven't a clue how to categorize articles, nor whether Ms Coulter should be categorized, any opinions?
Gay15boy 11:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

This quote is unsourced and it could be a mere opinion from somebody, so this should be deleted. I don't know the lyrics to the song, but we can't assume that she supports gays simply because she sings about it (if that's actually true). Adding LGBT for this is not appropriate. RaNdOm26 12:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The entire thing is thinly veiled PR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.136.31 (talk) 14:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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Actress

The article describes her an actress ("is a New Zealand-born Australian pop/R&B singer, actress, radio presenter and celebrity"). IMDb doesn't, however, know anything about her acting roles in movies or television [1] (acting as herself doesn't count). Has she had acting roles in theatre? If not, where does this "she is an actress" thing come from? ,,n (talk) 13:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what actress and celebrity were doing there, ofcourse she's a CELEBRITY! lol so I have changed it to (is an Australian pop/R&B singer-songwriter, television and radio presenter). She's defintely not an actress, just appeared on TV either as a host or performing. ozurbanmusic (talk) 23:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page not moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 03:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

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Ricki-Lee Coulter → Ricki-Lee – Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC) As a singer, she is most commonly known as Ricki-Lee. Check her single and album covers. Oz ^talk 00:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

• I support the proposal, this is the name she uses for her music. Her music is what she is most notable for. In most of the sources she is just referred to by that name. Looking on Google trends, there are more hits for Ricki-Lee than Ricki-Lee Coulter. I think when you look at those factors and if we go by WP:COMMONNAME - it should be Ricki-Lee.RaintheOne ^BAM 00:35, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support given those factors. Capitalistroadster (talk) 01:07, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support :Its the more common form of her name in Australia media. If the move is made, you'll need to dab/hatnote from Ricky Lee and Ricki-Lee & other similar forms.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:22, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose Whist her 'stage' name is Ricki-Lee, a search of the majority of newspaper and magazine articles refer to her full name Ricki-Lee Coulter. Dan arndt (talk) 01:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) states that we use the name by which she is most commonly known. This is not necessarily the name she goes under. A look at Google News demonstrates that it is clearly Ricki-Lee Coulter. StAnselm (talk) 04:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
  • She's always been mostly known as Ricki-Lee throughout her career. Just like Usher not Usher Raymond, and Madonna not Madonna Ciccone. Oz ^talk 06:32, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
    • You say that, but the news sources suggest otherwise. Obviously some entertainers are best known by a single name, but others are not - Beyoncé Knowles, Oprah Winfrey, Elvis Presley etc. StAnselm (talk) 07:03, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
      • Beyoncé Knowles – She is known as an actress with that name.
      • Oprah Winfrey – The Oprah Winfrey Show
      • Elvis Presley – Its always been that name. Oz ^talk 07:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
• Lukewarm Support It's a lot of work based on the number of hits both names generate. That being said, I can't see why we should avoiding her chosen name as a performer, rather than that of the press, of all things. I liked the comment re: Madonna. And as one of the major contributors to the article which includes both stage names of Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam (neither being his birth name), don't see why "we can't all get along"! The only exception that isn't worthy of standing on it's own is that weird symbol that Prince uses, IMHO. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 03:53, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • He goes under the name of Yusuf Islam, but he's most commonly known as Cat Stevens. Why would we place her chosen name as a performer above the name by which she's known in the press? StAnselm (talk) 04:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose Not yet at least. E.g. on The Project they used her surname during the intro, but did not when announcing her on the desk. Mark Hurd (talk) 14:00, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose The real name is at least as common as the stage name in articles about her. Dicklyon (talk) 01:00, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. I have just looked at 10 random media articles on the subject, and 80% refer to her as Ricki-Lee Coulter in the lead. Clearly, the majority media is not ready for another surname-less person. WWGB (talk) 07:55, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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Infobox image

I'm not much for starting trivial discussions, but here is one. I think her posture in File:Ricki Lee Coulter 2.jpg was much better than the current one. What does everyone else think?Rain the 1 22:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

• I agree, her posture does look better in that image. Oz ^talk 23:18, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
• No one else replied here so I've changed it back to that image. Oz ^talk 04:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ricki-Lee Coulter/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Shaidar cuebiyar (talk · contribs) 02:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Starting the review

I will be going through each of the criteria in order. I reserve the right to return to earlier comments/sections and revise/add to them until the review is finished. Unless otherwise indicated, maintain existing wikilinks and formatting. The review process should take about a week. I will allow an additional week for any requested changes to be made before making my decision.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Check toolbox. Some red-links exist.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:47, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

</noinclude> A good article is—

Criterion 1

1. Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

Infobox

1. Re-add | alt =  Done
2. birth name? I'm sure I once put her middle name in here. Check APRA, ASCAP or other songwriting credits for her full name. Also fix it in the Lead.
   1. Both APRA and ASCAP list her name as Ricki-Lee Coulter. Oz ^talk 23:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. Try COULTER RICKI-LEE DAWN at ASCAP (use 'Writer' tab) vs COULTER RICKI-LEE. Try "Not Broken" at APRA. Try 2DAY FM's 'The Truth about Ricki-Lee' (not as reliable as the previous two).shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:37, 18 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
3. Re-add <!-- {{death date and age|YYYY|MM|DD|YYYY|MM|DD}} (death date 1st) --> | death_place =  Done
4. | instrument = [[Singing|Vocals]] Avoid re-direct.  Done
5. |occupation = [[Singer-songwriter]], [[dancer]], [[Radio personality|radio]] and [[Presenter#Television presenter|television presenter]]  Done
6. years active? Lead says she began performing at age 15: so 2000 or 2001? but not 2004shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Lead

1. Full name (and in infobox)  Done
2. add , also known mononymously as Ricki-Lee, after brackets. She seems to release recorded material without use of her surname.  Done
3. before leaving the group in early > before leaving in early  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Early life

1. Not sure of time-line: Coulter's parents separated when her mother was pregnant, but Coulter is eldest of three children. Did her parents reconcile or are they half-siblings? She says she had a lonely childhood: no brothers or sisters when going to school (Is she much older? Or were they raised separately?)  Fixed
   1. John is her step-father – she met him when she was nine and she calls him her dad. See here. Doesn't give biological father's name.  Done
   2. Is Sheerin, Loretta's married name? Is Coulter, Loretta's maiden name?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:00, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
   3. Not sure. Many sources list her name as Loretta Sheerin. Oz ^talk 10:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
2. and she was raised by  Done
3. Condense As a child, she attended Southport State Primary School.[7] During this time, Coulter experienced personal struggles due to a lonely childhood, in which she wanted the life her school friends had. e.g. She attended Southport State Primary School and experienced the personal struggles of a lonely childhood as she wanted a life similar to her school friends.[5][7]  Done
4. Place relevant ref straight after any direct quotes.  Done
5. Where two or three tabs are present order them numerically.  Done
6. When was the knee injury? Was it just before the 15 year old was noted for singing?  Fixed
7. who overheard her singing in her bedroom > who overheard her Maybe combine with following sentence?  Done
8. from singing, she also learned > from singing, she also learned
   1. Huh? Oz ^talk 23:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. Check code: there's an extra space between 'she' and 'also' in original.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
9. She learned to play various instruments: Are any of these on her recordings or live performances? If so, put in infobox.
10. Trim During high school, Coulter excelled in subjects that she enjoyed, including music and sport. e.g. During high school, Coulter excelled in music and sport.  Done
11. Reword sentence that currently starts with She decided to focus on her and start with After completing high school, she decided to focus on her Can you give an indication of when?  Done
12. Wasn't Random formed after Coulter had already departed Australian Idol? This is not clear in final sentence in this section.
I've removed it. Oz ^talk 23:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC) More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

2003–04

1. Second two sentences in the 1st ¶ here are on Australian Idol and are not directly related to Coulter. They should be deleted: interested readers can go to the article to find out this.  Done
2. Condense and combine The following year, Coulter successfully auditioned for the first season of Popstars Live, a television show similar to Idol and based on the original Popstars series; the winner of which receives a recording contract with Universal Music.[9][13] She progressed through to the top sixty round of the competition but was part of the first group of performers who were sent home.[9] e.g. The following year, Coulter successfully auditioned for the first season of Popstars Live, and progressed to the top sixty round of the competition but was part of the first group of performers who were sent home.[9][13]  Done
3. top twelve > top twelve i.e. add a hard space.  Done
4. was regarded as a favourite  Done
5. Tina Turner's "Proud Mary" I thought it was a Creedence Clearwater Revival original, although Turner has done various cover versions of it.
   1. I mentioned that she performed Turner's version of "Proud Mary". Oz ^talk 23:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
6. For those who don't know, Judge Dickson's claim of it being a 'scandal' needs explanation: was there some actual legal impropriety in the competition or was this just hyperbole to get more people to vote? Furthermore his role as the TV series' judge should be specified to reduce misunderstanding.  Done
7. bottom three or two > bottom three The 'or two' is redundant.  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

2005–07

1. Although headed 'Recording career', didn't Coulter get recorded the year before, as part of Australian Idol final 12?
   1. I've changed it to 'Music career'. Oz ^talk 00:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
2. Adj the show's label Sony BMG, and signed with Australia's > the show's sponsor Sony BMG, but she signed with Australia's  Done
3. Speaking of her decision to sign with Shock Records, Coulter said "I'd > Coulter explained, "I'd  Done
4. Trim Her debut single "Hell No!" was released in June 2005, and served as the lead single from her self-titled debut album, Ricki-Lee > Her debut single "Hell No!" was released in June 2005, ahead of the related self-titled debut album, Ricki-Lee  Done
5. Trim The song debuted and peaked at number five on the ARIA Singles Chart, and remained inside the top-ten for three consecutive weeks. e.g. The song peaked at number five on the ARIA Singles Chart – remaining in the top-ten for three consecutive weeks. Note: hard space between number and five. Use hard space for similar (see WP:NBSP)  Done
6. Combine & condense "Sunshine" was released as the album's second single in September 2005.[21] It peaked at number eight on the ARIA Singles Chart and was certified gold by the ARIA.[22][20] > "Sunshine" was released as her second single in September,[21] which peaked at number eight and was also certified gold.[20][22] The ARIA parts are now default, no other charting or certification would be expected.  Done
7. Similarly, combine and condense two separated sentences The album, Ricki-Lee, was released on 3 October 2005.[23] + Ricki-Lee debuted and peaked on the ARIA Albums Chart at number 30.[22] > Ricki-Lee was released on 3 October 2005,[23] which peaked at number 30 on the ARIA Albums Chart.[22] de-link ARIA Albums Chart as ARIA Charts previously linked.  Done
8. peaked at number two on the ARIA Singles Chart, > peaked at number two  Done
9. number four on the ARIA Albums Chart  Done
10. Trim The announcement of the cancellation came at a time when rumours began to circulate that Coulter was set to leave the group, due to personality clashes with DeAraugo. e.g. The cancellation occurred amid claims that Coulter was set to leave the group, due to personality clashes with DeAraugo.  Done
11. Trim Four months later, Coulter announced on 22 June 2007 that she would be leaving Young Divas to resume her solo career and plan her upcoming wedding to fiance Jamie Babbington. > However, on 22 June 2007, Coulter announced her departure to resume her solo career and to plan her upcoming wedding to fiancé, Jamie Babbington.  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:00, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

2007–09

1. Trim The song debuted and peaked at number two on ARIA Singles Chart, and remained inside the top-ten for eight consecutive weeks.
   1. I trimmed 'ARIA Singles Chart'. I think the fact that the song peaked at number two should stay because its her best chart position to date. Oz ^talk 00:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. Yeah, you got this.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
2. Specify date: It is Coulter's most successful single to date, and was eventually certified platinum. e.g. As of August 2012, it is Coulter's most successful single, and was certified platinum in December 2008.  Done
3. Del 'Audius', from Mtawarira: available earlier.  Done
4. Trim The album debuted and peaked on the ARIA Albums Chart at number 37
   1. I trimmed 'ARIA Albums Chart'. The album's chart position should stay. Oz ^talk 00:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. Certainly.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
5. According to "The ARIA Report", archived (PDF) at PANDORA, the compilation is titled merely, The Singles. By the way, the ref confirms its non-charting in that week: more reliable than Sanity for this.  Fixed
6. The following year, Coulter released "Don't Miss You" as the lead single from her third album Hear No, See No, Speak No in July 2009, and peaked at number 24. > In July 2009, Coulter released "Don't Miss You", which peaked at number 24, as the lead single from her proposed third studio album, Hear No, See No, Speak No.  Done
7. The album's second single, also titled "Hear No, See No, Speak No", was > The second single, the title track, was Note: reworked wikilinkage.  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

2010–present

1. Delete She tweeted, after "five AMAZING years myself & my manager & dear friend Lauren Brown have decided to go our separate ways. We have experienced & achieved INCREDIBLE things together as a team and proved that with passion & determination – ANYTHING is possible!". The quote adds little to understanding Coulter's split with Brown, which is adequately described in the previous sentence; but keep the ref.  Done
2. Clarify position as a breakfast host > position as a breakfast radio presenter Confirms its use in infobox.  Done
3. Use pipe to avoid redirect: [[30 Seconds to Mars|Thirty Seconds to Mars]]shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:19, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
4. Combiner & condense: "Raining Diamonds" was released as the lead single from Coulter's third album, Fear & Freedom. The song peaked at number 19 on the ARIA Singles Chart and was certified platinum.[21][69] > "Raining Diamonds", which peaked at number 19,[21] was the lead single from Coulter's third album, Fear & Freedom,[68] and was certified platinum by 2012.[69] Or move all ref tabs to end of sentence.  Done
5. Expand IT List Awards: Explain whether IT are initials or just 'it' stressed.
   1. The website for this doesn't mention anything about the "IT" part. Oz ^talk 10:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
6. "Do It Like That" was released as the album's second single in March 2012, and peaked at number 13 and was certified platinum. > "Do It Like That", the second single, was released in March 2012, which peaked at number 13 and was certified platinum.  Done
7. Combine & condense: "Crazy" was released as the album's third single on 13 July 2012.[73] It has so far reached number 46 on the ARIA Singles Chart.
   1. I've reworded this like the previous singles sentences. Oz ^talk 10:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
8. Coulter performed songs from the album for the first time at the Beresford Hotel in Sydney on 30 May 2012 > On 30 May Coulter first performed tracks from the album, at the Beresford Hotel, Sydney  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Musical style and influences

1. Name The Age reviewer.
   1. Source doesn't provide a name. Oz ^talk 10:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. Try the part in bold: "Her shock exit looked like the end for Idol hopeful Ricki-Lee Coulter last year, but as Guy Blackman discovered, it may just have been the start of something big". The reviewer is Guy Blackman.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
2. was about her former relationship with ex-husband Jamie Babbington, > was about ending her relationship with ex-husband, Babbington, We already know his first name.  Done
3. Coulter has also co-written some of her material > Coulter has co-written much of her own material A quick count at APRA gives some 56 co-written songs (credited to Coulter R) out of 87 performed (by Ricki Lee or Ricki Lee Coulter), although some duplicates/rewrites may have been counted more than once. Other tracks may be found as performed by: Ricki-Lee, Ricki-Lee Coulter and even one under Ricki-Lee Dawn Coulter.  Done
4. Using APRA only, I count four from her debut album: "Turn It Up", "Can You Feel It?", "Let Me Hear You Say", "Done with It".  Done
5. Allmusic is not entirely reliable for songwriters: some names aren't same as at APRA. I haven't counted all the tracks for the second or third albums.  Done
6. as influences. During an interview with Cosmopolitan magazine, Coulter spoke about Knowles, saying "She's so driven > as influences, she told Cosmopolitan magazine, "[Knowles is] so driven  Done
7. Critics have compared her single > Critics have compared Coulter's  Done
8. Coulter has also expressed her love and admiration > Coulter has expressed admiration  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Television and radio career

1. Too much 'celebrities' in first half of ¶  Done
2. The show's main purpose was to train the celebrities into circus acts > The show's task was to train contestants as circus performers De-link circus.  Done
3. Trim off year: from the competition on 4 March 2008.  Done
4. Reword where she helped coach Seal prepare the singers Sounds like Coulter coached Seal!  Done
5. Reorganise She co-hosted the show for that year only, and received two award nominations for her role; at the 2010 Australian Commercial Radio Awards for 'Best Newcomer On Air' from the Metropolitan area, and at the 2010 Cosmopolitan Fun, Fearless, Female Women of the Year Awards for 'Radio Host'. > She co-hosted the show for that year only, but received two award nominations: 'Best Newcomer on Air' at the 2010 Australian Commercial Radio Awards, and 'Radio Host' at the 2010 Cosmopolitan Fun, Fearless, Female Women of the Year Awards.  Done
   1. A further tweak: 'Best Newcomer on Air – Metropolitan' at the shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 09:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Endorsements

1. Single ¶ section: consider amalgamating with following section.  Done
2. De-link: television commercial  Done
3. who had been the Australian face for the brand since 2006 > who had been with the brand since 2006  Done

Philanthropy

1. that benefits research into childhood genetic diseases. > which sponsors investigation into childhood genetic diseases.  Done
2. Coulter said she had been supporting the campaign since she was in high school > Coulter has supported the charity since she was in high school  Done
3. Adjust wikilinkage: annual [[Red ribbon#AIDS awareness origin
|red ribbon appeal]] in November 2011 Note: Australian is default; I'd use 'red ribbon appeal' not 'Red ribbon' appeal.  Done
1. an Australian independent non-profit charity benefiting > a charity benefiting  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Personal life

1. More about Babbington: their relationship existed for seven or so years: during the crucial early part of her career. She says he was her first boyfriend. This means they started seeing each other in ca 2001 when she was in high school and 15/16 years old and he was about 23. What was/is Babbington's profession? How did he support her? Content elsewhere describes songs Coulter wrote regarding the end of their relationship: are there any about the good times? Any indication of what Babbington has done after Coulter?  Done
   1. According to here, (23 January 2008) She was 15 when they met, he was 23, they started "dating seriously" after about a year. Babbington is a builder, the lyrics for "Can't Sing a Different Song" are "'kind of bragging' about how happy she and her husband are"  Done
2. De-link honeymoon.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:16, 18 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
3. Since 2009, Coulter began dating personal trainer > Since September 2009, Coulter began dating personal trainer See ref [114] for Sep  Done
4. Some chronology needed for sentences starting with "During an interview with..": When was the Weekly (or is it Woman's Day?) interview? When was she happy at size 14?  Done
More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Discography to See also

1. [[Fear & Freedom#Release and promotion|Fear & Freedom Tour]] Dates have been announced in various industry publications/websites: time to wikilink it.  Done
2. Hillary Duff's Dignity Tour: Australian leg Leave wikilink on Dignity Tour, don't link Duff.  Done
3. Do similar for next tour.  Done
4. ''[[Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (Australian game show)|Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?]]'' Australia not specified in other local versions of shows.  Done
5. For Australian Idol notes: provide the seasons (wikilinked)  Done
6. Fix: The Voice (Australia) per 3 above.  Done
7. For Awards and nominations section consider using Template:Awards table.
   1. I think its best to use the current format for a bio article and the template for a "List of awards and nominations" article. Oz ^talk 23:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. OK.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Criterion 2

2. Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); and

(c) it contains no original research.

References

I will be checking all the references and each numbered comment below is related to the ref's number as it existed at this time. The order in the article may change from this numbering as refs get moved, added or deleted.

• Preliminary comments: its good to see lots of webcites this should reduce linkrot effects. Consider changing {{Reflist|2 to {{Reflist|25em (or similar).

More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 12:04, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

1. Fix url to point directly to the title being searched rather than the generic search engine. I've already supplied the url above but here it is again (with title fixed too): url=http://www.apra-amcos.com.au/worksearch.axd?q=Not%20Broken | title = Works Search – Title: 'Not Broken' For future use the important part of the url is after axd?q= where the title is entered with %20 replacing spaces. This is only useful for titles – I haven't found a work around for 'Performer' or 'Writers' – and has an upper limit of 750 results. Full name and performer name(s) are supported here.  Done
2. year=2008 Before 15 March. Content supported at: a, b, d and e. At c it supports Jodie only, no sign of Emily here. I sometimes have trouble with work=''[[Take 40 Australia]]'' so I use work=</i>[[Take 40 Australia]]<i> instead. Delete corporate designations from publisher, e.g. no Pty, Ltd, or Inc  Done
3. Add (News Corporation) to publisher. Content at a: Source gives her mother's married name as Loretta Sheerin, her uncle as Darren Coulter. No mention of descent. Content at b: Babbington is 30, they've been together for six years.  Done
4. Content at a confirmed, furthermore the tribal groups are Ngāi Tahu and Ngāpuhi. Content at b confirmed. Re-order ref tabs numerically.  Done
5. publisher=[[The Herald and Weekly Times]] (News Corporation) Confirmed: a, b, c.  Done
6. This ref says she was three months old on move to Qld not three weeks seen in other sources. Confirmed: a, b (but not Scottish)
   1. In this ref Coulter confirms it was 3 months. The other refs were written by others. Oz ^talk 23:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
7. Adj publisher per [5]. Subscription required? If so, add a note to ref. I only see first two lines: can't confirm content at a, b or c. I have seen this content at other refs (but can't remember which): it would be preferable to use non-subscription sources.
   1. Weird. The ref showed all the content before. I added a note. Oz ^talk 23:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
8. Add first=Josephine|last=Agostino (found near bottom of article "Pictures: Rob Shaw / Text: Josephine Agostino / Fashion Styling: Melissa Cormack / Hair and Make-up: Deanne Dority") Confirmed content. Additional information: Mother was a model. Coulter was taller than other girls (explains why good at netball). At this time, Coulter is "looking forward to having babies in the next few years".  Done
9. Change last=Moran|first=Jonathon|work=[[The Sunday Telegraph (Australia)|The Sunday Telegraph]]|publisher=News Limited (News Corporation) Confirms Scottish.  Done
10. Change |work=U on Sunday. [[The Sunday Mail (Brisbane)|The Sunday Mail]]|publisher=News Limited (News Corporation) Can't check content, for offline source give page number.  Done
11. wikilink [[Music Australia]] Confirmed: a, b, c, d (but reorder tabs), e, f, g.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:10, 19 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
12. Describes Popstars Live but adds nothing specific about Coulter. Deletable?  Done
13. per [5] & [11]d, and change first=Erin. Content confirmed, can be used for proposed 3rd alb; more on split with Babbington including lyrics quoted.  Done
14. Add author's names & date. Confirmed: a, b, c, d, e, f. Additional content: on p3: band she joined at 15 had been hired for her stepfather's birthday party.  Done
15. Not sure about this source. Seems to be a management/PR bio: a slightly earlier version of here. The latter was issued on 18 January 2009 as part of a media pack]. If you're just using it to confirm song titles in the competition then adj publisher=Music Theatre Australia  Done
16. Nothing about Daniel Belle here, other content is confirmed.  Done
17. wL The Music Network, add (Adam Zammit) to publisher.  Done
18. fix work, it should be italicised: its a radio program. Confirmed.  Done
19. Adj |title=Ricki-Lee – 'Hell No!'|last=Hung|first=Steffen|work=</i>Australian Charts Portal<i>|publisher=Hung Medien| Confirmed.  Done
20. OK, except adj tabs at b.  Done
21. Adj title=''Sunshine'' – EP by Ricki-Lee|date=29 September 2005 Note italics used for an EP. iTunes calls it an EP not a single, but I wouldn't change the article: I've seen single in other sources.  Done
22. per [19]  Done
23. Same source different page, as [14]? You can use a shortened ref here e.g. <ref>Blackman, [http://www.webcitation.org/68M9NrLuu p. 4]</ref> However the url goes to p. 1 anyway. If Blackman has written more than one article you'll need to expand this a little. Alternatively you can use [14] for both with an instruction to click on tab 'Page 4' (or others if used) for additional information. Content verified.
    1. Hmmmm. I'm not sure what to do here. If the archived ref for page 4 goes to page 1, then why can't we just leave as it is? Oz ^talk 03:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
    2. I'd go for option two, use ref [14] for all uses of Blackman with a note added to guide users to the other pages as needed. [14] would also have to be modified with pages=1–4 shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
    3.  Done But who is Blackman? Is that the author's first or last name? Oz ^talk 05:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
24. per [21]  Done
25. publisher=Mediasearch (Carmine Pascuzzi)|date=14 June 2006 Confirmed.  Done
26. Author names. Adj tabs at b. Confirmed.  Done
27. OK, except tabs.  Done
28. Names. Otherwise OK.  Done
29. per [19]  Done
30. OK
31. Fix title. Need another ref for cover version detail.  Done
32. OK
33. Fix title.  Done
34. OK
35. Personality clashes, yes. With DeAraugo, not here.  Fixed
36. Problem with archive link: Page not found. No show at wayback machine either. With no support you'll have to delete specification that clash was with DeAraugo.
    1. Replaced ref. Oz ^talk 21:08, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
37. Fix work. Otherwise OK.  Done
38. Fix work. Otherwise OK.  Done
39. OK
40. per [21]  Done
41. per [19]  Done
42. OK
43. |last=JackT|publisher=inthemix ([[Sound Alliance]]) Confirmed.  Done
44. Fix title. Add (Ray Itaoui) to publisher.  Done
45. Problem: Not found. No wayback either. Information not confirmed: other reliable source(s) are required. Try Dunn] at SMH for 2007 win or negotiate around the 2007 official website. I let you find other years' source(s).  Done
46. per [21]  Done
47. archive copy is a dud. Original still works. authorlink=Paul Cashmere|publisher=Undercover Media delete work.  Done
48. Fix title. publisher=Esprit International (EIL)  Done
49. wL language. Translation available at google: here
    1. I don't think we can use Google translate in the ref. Oz ^talk 22:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
    2. Add a Note: Google Translation version available here. Place it after the last }} but before </ref>shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)  Done
50. Names. publisher=Brisbane Street Press Confirmed.  Done
51. per [21]  Done
52. OK
53. OK
54. per [21]  Done
55. OK
56. per [21]  Done
57. per [21]  Done
58. per [19]  Done
59. Adj work to Sunday Telegraph. Confirmed.  Done
60. OK
61. OK
62. Consider use of Template:Cite video with Coulter as a presenter/author. Confirmed.
63. per [21]  Done
64. work=Herald Sun Confirmed.  Done
65. Fix work. Confirmed.  Done
66. |last1=Christie|first1=Joel|last2=Harris|first2=Amy Confirmed.  Done
67. Fix authors. Confirmed.  Done
68. OK
69. publisher=Noise Network Confirmed.  Done
70. OK
71. publisher=AKA Entertainment Confirmed.  Done
72. per [21]
73. Not found. Better to use [70] for Plat cert. [22] confirms chart posi.  Fixed
74. per [21]  Done
75. OK
76. Page not found. No wayback.
    1. Replaced ref. Oz ^talk 23:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
77. OK
78. per [18]  Done
79. Add publisher per [69]  Done
80. first=2|Peter > first2=Peter De-link work (previously linked). Confirmed.  Done
81. Fix title. Confirmed.  Done
82. Add names, fix title. Confirmed.  Done
83. Fix title. Confirmed.  Done
84. OK
85. OK
86. Add content currently at format= to a Note after }} but before </ref> e.g. accessdate=8 June 2012}} Note: enter "Ricki Lee*" as 'Performer' then click 'Search', ignore any Ricki Lee Jones works.</ref> The asterisk provides any performer starting with Ricki Lee (the hyphen is ignored). 93 are Coulter's and 13 by Jones.  Done
87. add (Nine Entertainment Co. & Microsoft) to publisher. Confirmed.  Done
88. See [14] & [23]. Confirmed.
89. per [69].  Done
90. OK
91. publisher=Trellian Confirmed.  Done
92. Names. Confirmed.  Done
93. OK
94. |title=''It Takes Two'' – 2/3|work=</i>Throng<i>|publisher=Throng Media (Regan Cunliffe, Rachel Cunliffe)  Done
95. OK
96. OK
97. OK
98. OK
99. OK
100. OK. Also tells us that Babbington has a new girlfriend: two months after their separation.  Done
     1. I've found sources on who Coulter was rumoured to be dating four months after their separation, but nothing on Babbington. Oz ^talk 05:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
     2. Forget the rumours as probable OR.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:05, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
101. OK
102. publisher=Commercial Radio Australia Confirmed.  Done
103. OK. Didn't Coulter get to the next stage: final three?
     1. Does it matter? She still lost lol. Oz ^talk 12:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
104. last=Anggara|first=Janine|publisher=HoldMeTight Shapewear Confirmed.  Done
105. add (News Corporation) to publisher after News Community Media. Confirmed.  Done
106. add agency=[[Australian Associated Press]] (AAP) Confirmed.  Done
107. OK
108. OK
109. OK
110. OK
111. OK
112. Page not found. No wayback. I've seen the content at other sites , e.g. here. Separated, but when did they divorce? Or is 'separated' a euphemism for 'divorced'?  Done
113. Adj work=Sunday Herald Sun. Add bracketed ellipsis in breaks of her quote. e.g. life was a mess. [...] I felt alone,  Done
114. Woman's Day not Women's Weekly. Confirmed.  Done
115. last=Squires|first=Wendy Confirmed.  Done
116. per [94] Confirmed.  Done
117. Fix title. Confirmed.  Done
118. per [94] Confirmed.  Done
119. OK
120. Add (David Knox) to publisher. Confirmed.  Done
121. last=Mitchell|first=Debbie|publisher=Musicoz (Premiere Media)  Done

More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Criterion 3

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Doing well on this Criterion and with the work on previous criteria this will be acceptable. Two minor queries (but not compulsory for this criterion):

1. If possible I'd like to see her biological father's name but this may be difficult to find in an acceptable source.
   1. I've only found sources on her step father's name. Nothing on her biological father's name has come up. Oz ^talk 11:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. OK.
2. Are there any verifiable instances of her providing instrumentation for a recording or live public performance?
   1. Is this about adding the instruments she played in high school in the infobox? Oz ^talk 11:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
   2. It could be faulty memory, I read somewhere that she had played an instrument live but I can't remember the occasion so I'd leave it out. The high school stuff would not provide sufficient professional performance to be added to the infobox.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:49, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Comments

A user recently added information in the Personal life section about Coulter not wanting to have children. Is this needed? Oz ^talk 00:11, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

This point is probably too trivial for the article, I've seen it mentioned but before her marriage to Babbington she was saying she was looking forward to having children. She may change her mind on having children as time progresses but these vagaries don't appear to be an important part of her life.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:49, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Criterion 4

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

1. Already quite healthy on this Criterion, with further work above, this is covered.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Criterion 5

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

1. Some edits in-line with above comments is expected, otherwise the article appears to be relatively stable.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Criterion 6

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

Images

1. Infobox:OK
2. Coulter2006:OK
3. 2007:Caption is a little thin. Add location & month. Check year: is it 2008? From the text we have Coulter headed over to US to record 2nd alb: "had headed overseas to work on her second solo album" dated 11 Feb. If it is Feb 2008 then she would be promoting that 2nd alb.  Done
4. 2012:Caption can add something about her debuting tracks from the third album. For date just month & year is sufficient.  Done
5. 2011:Just month & year. Venue?  Done
6. Although not necessary, a suitable sound file or two of her typical work would help illustrate the article.  Done

More to follow.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:17, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Final decision

A final decision is pending completion of the above suggestions per criterion. I will allow one week from this date stamp for all of these to be finished.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:17, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I've just polished up a few ref titles: mostly formatting for singles or albums. Other changes in line with the review appear to have been completed. Congratulations to Ozurbanmusic – this is now a Good article.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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