Talk:Rhythm in Turkish music

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This article says that usul is not exactly the same as meter and gives as its reason the fact that students tap their knees. I think that anyone can tap his knees to meters as well as to usuls, and that, in fact, usuls are meters.

Odradek5 (talk) 03:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Reviving this conversation; indeed anyone can tap their knees to a meter, but there is a fundamental difference between usual and meter that this explanation near misses. All usûls indicate a meter, but not all meters indicate usûl. For example, both the standard Aksak and Evfer would be notated as 9/8, yet if one sees a meter of 9/8 but no usûl marking, they would not be able to differentiate between Aksak or Evfer. Even if melodic notation is given, the best one can do is an educated guess based on the rhythmic aspects of the melody. Uness232 (talk) 17:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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