Talk:Red drum

The picture in this article is not an accurate representation of the Redfish described.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcardin4 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 4 April 2006

Why isn't it? Looks like a normal redfish to me.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.150.196.243 (talk • contribs) 13:25, 20 June 2006

also frequently called a spot-tail here in NC—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.222.236 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 23 October 2006

does anybody have sources on

1) the paul prudhomme analysis/connection

2) the statement that the redfish population has recovered?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Eustatic (talk • contribs) 21:31, 27 November 2006

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“Those kings of the New Orleans French Market, the Red Snapper and the Redfish, are used in making the pride and glory of the New Orleans cuisines, a good courtbouillon. More generally and with finer results the Redfish or “Poisson Rouge” is used.” This entry in the “Times-Picayune Creole Cook Book,” first published in 1901, suggests how long this species has been utilized in Louisiana. Coastal residents from Texas to North Carolina have long enjoyed the robust flavor of young redfish, and commercial landings of the species have been recorded since the 1880s.

In the 1980s, New Orleans chef Paul Prudhomme popularized blackened redfish which made the older, stronger tasting fish palatable. That conspicuous fishery led to the myth that commercial fishermen overfished the species when in fact research prompted by that fishery revealed that not enough immature fish were being recruited to the brood stock from the Gulf states’ inshore waters. From 1980 through 1988, commercial fishermen took an average of 28% of the juvenile redfish while exploding numbers of Baby Boomer sport fishermen harvested 72 percent.

Restrictions on both sport and commercial fishermen allowed the species to rebuild but, as they were inequitably applied and commercial fishermen excluded from the fishery, consumers lost their access to the delectable species.

The above material is unsourced, and appears to be biased to one side of a dispute. -- Donald Albury 20:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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I have removed the following unsourced material which inserted in front of an existing citation in the lede: "These fish have continued to become more sparce and possibly are now endangered. Efforts are currently being made to protect them. However it is important to mention that many sport fisherman oppose any proposed sanctions."

While there may be a place for the material somewhere in the body of the article, it definitely needs to be supported by citations to reliable sources. -- Donald Albury 12:08, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Essentially Trash Fish - needs mentioning

Where I come from - which is right on Galveston Bay, these fish are caught for sport, not food. I have given away many of these so-called "reds" away to the local poor people, because regular folks here don't eat drums. They're bony and gross to eat. Someone needs to mention that this is essentially a throw-away "trash" fish on the Gulf of Mexico. Only poor people eat them. 73.6.96.168 (talk) 11:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Do you know of a reliable source that says that? BTW, where I grew up mullet were considered bait fish, and not eaten by anyone respectable. Where I live now, smoked mullet is considered a delicacy. De gustibus non est disputandum - Donald Albury 17:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Donald Albury, two decades ago in Gulf Shores I was told the same thing about mullet--that it was trash. We caught some but never got to eat it, since we were all pretty drunk and the one guy who supposedly knew how to fillet a fish was incapacitated. I've never seen mullet for sale here in Alabama, but I tell you what, I wouldn't mind having some for lunch. Drmies (talk) 17:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

You can get it shipped. Donald Albury 19:27, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Not trivia

@Drmies: blackened redfish is actually due, I'm about to log off but the popularity of the dish caused red drum consumption in the US to skyrocket and this is backed up by many many WP:RS which google should readily provide (I know I've read a lot of stories over the years). I'l get around to it later if you don't feel like it. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• OK, Horse Eye's Back, that's fine--if you can provide that sourcing that would be great. Drmies (talk) 17:18, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
  • [1][2][3][4][5][6][7], will flesh out into a whole section either today or later. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
    • Excellent. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 03:11, 21 October 2022 (UTC)