Talk:Queens Surface Corporation
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QUEENS SURFACE HISTORY FROM QS WEBSITE
editThe QS website: Surface Lines History is on borrowed time. Eventually, it will be abandoned - they stopped updating it when MTA Bus took over. - SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 20:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Surface Corporation is the successor to a long line of companies extending back to the inception of horsecar service in the Village of Astoria in the 1860s. In 1988, Queens Surface Corporation was formed to replace the Queens/Steinway Transit Corporation (Q/STC), which was established from the merger of the Queens Transit Corporation and the Steinway Transit Corporation in 1986. Q/STC was owned by the Salzberg interests, a scrap metal and short line railroad operator, since it acquired the old New York & Queens County Railway Company in 1932. This acquisition was made for the purpose of replacing the street railway operations with buses and selling the scrap steel.
- There's more on the history of the two trolley companies(New York and Queens County Railway and Steinway Railway) that eventually became part of Queens Surface in "Lost Trolleys of Queens and Long Island," by Stephen L. Meyers. If they won't survive as separate articles (and I have a strong feeling they won't), you can add them to the history section of this article. You might be able to get it on Kindle, and if not, I can rummage through a shelf and grab my own copy out of storage. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 06:06, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
More history on SubChat
editGot some QSC and Steinway Transit bus maps on a thread on Subchat. It's really too bad that forums are considered unreliable sources, even though it's normally understandable. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Jones Beach Buses
editA bit of evidence that one of the predecessors of Queens Surface (Queens Transit) had buses serving Jones Beach. Any info on this before I submit my reformatted version of the bus routes? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
- I have two sandboxes for Queens Transit Buses and Steinway Transit Buses that are nearly ready for reformatting, and I still don't have any info on the former Jones Beach routes. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 12:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Reformatted bus route list
editNobody has commented on my effort to add a new version of the list of bus routes. So let me show it off;
Route | Terminal A | Major streets of travel | Terminal B | Notes/History |
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FORMER QUEENS SURFACE CORPORATION BUS ROUTES | ||||
Bronx and Queens Local | ||||
QBx1 | Flushing Main Street and 39th Avenue near Flushing – Main Street ( 7 <7> trains) |
Whitestone Expressway, Hutchinson River Parkway, Bruckner Boulevard, Co-op City Boulevard |
Co-op City, Bronx Earhart Lane and Erskine Place |
Limited Stop Service; most service ran exclusively between Pelham Bay Park and Co-op City. Interborough service is now called the Q50. Co-op City shuttle service is now the Bx23. |
Queens Local | ||||
Q25 | Jamaica Sutphin Boulevard and 94th Avenue at Sutphin Boulevard – Archer Avenue – JFK Airport ( E J Z trains) and Jamaica LIRR / AirTrain Station |
Parsons Boulevard, Kissena Boulevard, 127th Street | College Point Poppenhusen Avenue and 119th Street |
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Q34 | Parsons Boulevard, Kissena Boulevard, Union Street | Whitestone Willets Point Boulevard and 149th Street |
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Q65 | 164th Street, 45th Avenue, College Point Boulevard |
College Point 14th Avenue and 110th Street |
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Q65A | Forest Hills Queens Boulevard and 71st Avenue at Forest Hills – 71st Avenue ( E F <F> M R trains) |
Jewel Avenue | Electchester 164th Street and Jewel Avenue |
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Q66 | Long Island City 28th Street and Queens Plaza South at Queensboro Plaza ( 7 <7> N W trains) and Queens Plaza ( E M R trains) |
21st Street, 35th Avenue, Northern Boulevard |
Flushing Main Street and 39th Avenue near Flushing – Main Street ( 7 <7> trains) |
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Q67 | 21st Street, Borden Avenue, 55th Avenue, 69th Street |
Middle Village Metropolitan Avenue and Fresh Pond Road |
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Queens-Manhattan express | ||||
QM2 | Midtown Manhattan 6th Avenue |
Manhattan: 34th Street, 6th Avenue (or 3rd Avenue), 57th Street (Manhattan bound), 59th Street (Queens bound) Queens: Whitestone Expressway service road (weekdays only), Parsons Boulevard (weekends only), Cross Island Parkway service road |
Bay Terrace Bay Terrace Shopping Center |
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QM2A | Manhattan: 34th Street, 6th Avenue, 57th Street (Manhattan bound), 59th Street (Queens bound) Queens: Willets Point Boulevard, Utopia Parkway, 26th Avenue |
Bay Terrace Corporal Kennedy Street and 23rd Avenue |
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QM3 | Manhattan: 34th Street, 6th Avenue, 57th Street (Manhattan bound), 59th Street (Queens bound) Queens: Northern Boulevard, Little Neck Parkway. |
Little Neck Little Neck Parkway and Horace Harding Expressway |
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QM4 | Manhattan: 34th Street, 6th Avenue (or 3rd Avenue), 57th Street Queens: Jewel Avenue |
Electchester 164th Street and Horace Harding Expressway |
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FORMER STEINWAY TRANSIT BUS ROUTES | ||||
Queens Local | ||||
Q101 | East Midtown, Manhattan East 61st Street and 2nd Avenue |
Northern Boulevard, Steinway Street, 20th Avenue |
Steinway 77th Street and Hazen Street |
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Q101R | Long Island City Jackson Avenue and Queens Plaza South at Queensboro Plaza ( 7 <7> N W trains) and Queens Plaza ( E M R trains) |
21st Street, 20th Avenue | Rikers Island, Bronx | |
Q102 | Roosevelt Island, Manhattan Coler-Goldwater Hospital |
Main Street (Manhattan), Vernon Boulevard, 31st Street, 30th Avenue | Astoria 27th Avenue and 2nd Street |
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Q103 | Hunters Point Borden Avenue and Vernon Boulevard at Vernon Boulevard – Jackson Avenue ( 7 <7> trains) and Long Island City LIRR station |
Vernon Boulevard | Astoria 27th Avenue and 2nd Street |
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Q104 | Ravenswood Vernon Boulevard and 34th Avenue |
Broadway, 48th Street | Sunnyside 48th Street and Queens Boulevard at 46th Street – Bliss Street ( 7 train) |
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Queens-Manhattan express | ||||
QM1 | Midtown Manhattan 6th Avenue or Downtown Manhattan Downtown Loop |
Manhattan: 34th Street, 6th Avenue, 57th Street Queens: Union Turnpike, 188th Street |
Fresh Meadows 188th Street and 64th Avenue |
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QM1A | Manhattan: 34th Street, 6th Avenue, 57th Street Queens: Union Turnpike, 73rd Avenue, Horace Harding Expressway, Lakeville Road |
Glen Oaks 260th Street and Union Turnpike or Lake Success North Shore Towers |
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I'm still puzzled over the Jones Beach Bus Route. Let me know what you people think of this version. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b c d e f g h i "NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT ROUTES". www.chicagorailfan.com. Retrieved 2016-01-01. Cite error: The named reference "Bus Route History" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
- ^ "Full text of 'State of New York Department of Public Service Metropolitan Division: Fourteenth Annual Report For the Calendar Year 1934'"". archive.org. New York State Department of Public Service. February 14, 1935. Retrieved 2 March 2016.
- ^ a b c Hirshon, Nicholas (March 2, 2006). "BIZ DRIVEN AWAY. BUS REROUTE HURTS SALES, SAY JAMAICA MART OWNERS". Daily News (New York). Retrieved 16 December 2015.
- ^ a b c Cite error: The named reference
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ a b c d Seyfried, Vincent F. (1950). "Full text of "New York and Queens County Railway and the Steinway Lines, 1867-1939."". archive.org. Vincent F. Seyfried. Retrieved 20 December 2015.
- ^ a b c d Roger P. Roess; Gene Sansone (23 August 2012). The Wheels That Drove New York: A History of the New York City Transit System. Springer Science & Business Media. pp. 416–417. ISBN 978-3-642-30484-2.
- ^ a b c d e Woodberry, Jr., Warren (February 24, 2005). "MAJOR BUS CO. TO JOIN MTA". Daily News (New York). Retrieved 4 January 2016.
- ^ "MTA Bus Service Changes". Metropolitan Transportation Authority. April 2008. Archived from the original on 2008-04-18. Retrieved 1 January 2016.
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suggested) (help) - ^ a b Perlmutter, Emanuel (February 27, 1968). "Queens-Midtown Service Starts: 11 Express Buses Carry 1,000 on Test Runs". The New York Times. Retrieved 26 August 2016.
- ^ a b c "Northeast Queens Bus Study" (PDF). Metropolitan Transportation Authority. September 2015. Retrieved 11 December 2015.