Talk:Pokémon Adventures
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Relation to the games' storylines
editI haven't read this manga, so all I can really contribute is formatting... but how closely does it really follow the game series? The Elete Four thing sounds pretty out of whack with things in the games – that's following the games about as closely as Pokémon the First Movie did... but, it could generally follow the games besides that, I have no idea. Obviously it's not going to be a verbatim transcript of the games, but... anyay, can someone who's read this clarify a little? --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 14:29, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
- A lot of what goes down is pretty different than what happens in the games or anime, and yes, the Elite Four are evil in this. ECPBlue (talk) 21:40 February 18, 2021
- I haven't read the manga itself, but I read a summary of one of the "chapters" and found that Misty is a little like in the anime (as in the fact that she wanders around Kanto instead of taking care of her gym. I don't know if her sisters from the anime are present in the Mnaga or not)
--Fern 19:00, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The only times Misty appears are in specific circumstances that lead her to leave her gym. Many other gym leaders in the series are also known to wander around their regions, or even other regions, instead of tending to their gym but as they're aid to work for the pokemon league association in the manga they are usually doing certain duties such as maintaining the local area. The only gym leader that ever seems to worry about leaving their gym behind is Blue, but its possible that other gym leaders follow in his approach. Misty's sisters do not appear in the manga as far as I can remember — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.193.18 (talk) 13:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it's true that the Elite Four are evil in this manga. This series takes quite a few liberties on the actual games.
Indeed. I've read chapter summaries at Serebii.net.
- i have virtually all of the English-translated versions, and it completely blows the anime out of the water. For one thing, it has a REAL story, plus it's much more dramatic and ocasionally even graphic. One image i seem to recall is an Arbok getting sliced in half!
Yeah, I also prefer the manga to the anime. I like its story line and its drama. Nhl1988 19:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- same here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagdgdas (talk • contribs) 21:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Team Rocket name?
edit“Rocket” is an acronym for “Raid On the City, Knock-out, Evil Tusks.”
WTF? where did this come from? Never heard of it, doubt it's true. Needs to be confirmed or removed.
Giovanni says it in a flashback of Team Rocket's founding late in the GSC series. --Happy Mask Man 02:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's weird and makes no sense, but yes, it's true, at least in the Chuang Yi translations, which I have.
the Truth
editEverything in the Pokemon Adventures page is pretty much true. The manga deviates quite a bit from the game, picking up hints here and there to formulate a new story altogether. You may recall that Agatha tells you in the game that Proffessor Oak used to be quite a man, just that now he just wants to tinker with his pokedex; that is reflected in the storyline of the manga as she holds a grudge against Proffessor Oak in the series.
As for the Team Rocket acronym- sadly, that /is/ true. Certain things have been lost in translation and the Singapore team isn't as gifted as Viz. So it turned out sounding odd, but at /least/ it makes some kind of sense.
Misty and Brock both stay put in their respective gyms. The sisters do not appear. Blue's sister is known as Daisy, and she appears to help Prof. Oak out with his research in the later novels, starting from novel 6.
Don't worry about the Arbok. It's made to develop a secret power of being able to regenerate itself. :D
About Arbok, it is said the the patern on its chest decided its special power.Nhl1988 19:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Blue's sister was called May in the Yellow saga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.57.83 (talk) 02:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Please Expand!
editFor over a month, I have added a large section on the different chapters of Pokémon Adventures. However, it would seem to me that that particular section is getting more anonymous edits and almost no registered edits. It cannot be that I am the only registered user in this whole encyclopedia who knows a fraction of the storyline. There may be other Wikipedians who actually know the storyline of the first four Chapters, yet do not wish to chip in effort to contribute. It is very strange if that is so. Is the section on Chapters uncyclopedic? If so, please let me know. You guys joined Wikipedia to contribute to it, not slack. If you know the storyline, please expand the section! -- Altiris Exeunt 00:57, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I also love this manga. However, it is recently put on hiatus in my country, so I am quite un capable of it, but I'll try my best to help watever i cam Nhl1988 19:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Should Green's and Blue's name remain US version or Japan's?
editWell, you might shout at me with tons of reason, state that their name should remain US name, but it that so? In FRLG saga chapter 292, it states that Green (Blue in US) traded his Charizard for Red's Saur to make the prefect match Fire Red and LEAF GREEN. Now, please tell me the answer?
I think the name should also be like in Japan's version. That's would make more sense amd more coherent to the story line. Not only those two, but should all the name remaine in Japanese, the manga, after all, is not the same as the anime if not completely seperated. Nhl1988 19:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree as well. If only someone would be kind enough to change it. I would if I'm allowed to.
If you want it to be the US version then how come it confuses the characters names a few times? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.111.216.182 (talk) 08:50, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I think we should use the official English names, since this is the English Wikipedia. --Evice (talk) 18:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Even if the names here are the official English ones, the pages that are linked to it: Blue (pokemon) and Green (pokemon) are not consistent. To avoid moving pages, it would be simpler to rename them after the originals (Blue is the antagonist, Green is the girl). Rfts (talk) 06:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm in favor of keeping the English names for two reasons:
- The names were purposefully switched in the English adaptation because Pokemon Green Version was never released outside of Japan; thus, having Red's main rival, who is the secondary protagonist of the first story arc, be named Green wouldn't make much sense to the average reader familiar with the games at the time of its publication. Thus, the name Green was given to the tertiary female protagonist--a character based on the unused female player character for Red & Green/Blue.
- Because this is the English language Wikipedia, it wouldn't make sense to have the names reflect the Japanese version, and doing so would only serve to confuse English-speaking readers who aren't aware of the name switch. Likewise, the Japanese page should reflect the Japanese names.
If it was a translation mistake, I would be for preserving the Japanese names. But because it was intentionally done and has been kept for over 20 years, it should reflect the names that English readers of the manga would know them by. --PikachuJohnson (talk) 13:36, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Comedy??
editWhile PokeSpecial certainly has it's humorous moments, I don't see how it could be classified as comedy. Even Ruby/Sapphire, which is the most comedic one (unless it gets funnier at a part I haven't read yet... I'm through the first few chapters of Emerald), turned out to be very dramatic in the end... does it become more comedic in Emerald and DP?
- not really, i believe it focuses on action and adventure than comedy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagdgdas (talk • contribs) 21:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Diamond and Pearl arc is. Two of the main characters, Diamond and Pearl, are aspiring comedians, and their act is a major part of the story arc. A lot of the chapters within the story arc show them practicing their routine. Weather or not it's funny is one thing, but technically the DP arc is a comedy, among other things. PikachuJohnson (talk) 13:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Berlitz
editWe do not know what The Ladys first name, and I will change it unless given a valid sorce. BaconBoy914 (talk) 17:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I think Platinum should be Platina. There really isn't a exact Japanese-English name translation, so I can't prove it, but I'm fairly certain it's Platina. --haha169 (talk) 04:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- As there is currently no official English language name for Berlitz, as currently only up to Volume 28 has been release by Chuang Yi, then the name should remain as Platina under otherwise stated. TheChrisD Rants•Edits 09:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Shouldn't she referred insteas as just Berlitz because how can we be really sure that it is Platinum or Platina?--CoolPikachu! 21:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- But just Berlitz would also be a factual inaccuracy. Her name isn't just Berlitz. It sufficed for the time when we didn't know her first name, but now that it has been revealed... Oh, and additionally, I think that her nicknames "The Lady" should be added to her bio...just my two cents. :D --haha169 (talk) 02:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Let's just call her by her surname until there's an official english reference to her first name. That way, we can avoid an edit war. --Ryu-chan (Talk | Contributions) 02:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Personally, I think her name should be Platinum. For starters, all the character up to this point (even the two original characters) have been named after the games. Her name uses the same kanji for the word Platinum. Even the games page uses the same kanji saying "Pokémon Platinum, released in Japan as Pocket Monsters Platinum (ポケットモンスタープラチナ, Poketto Monsutā Purachina)". And it should also be noted that Kusaka (the guy who wrote the story, not the artist) kept her name hidden until Platinum was released in Japan. --Ryu-chan (Talk | Contributions) 15:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Platinum is her official name in both the Japanese and English versions. The Shogakukan website explicitly listed it as such. I'd provide a link but it's long-dead and I have no idea how to find archived links. Platina wouldn't make any sense because it's Platinum Version. Every single one of the characters has been specifically named after individual games. The only "exceptions" are Blake and Whitley, and that's because it's next to impossible to rationalize anyone naming their child Black 2 or White 2 (and their names are close approximations besides), and Henry Sword and Casey Shield, whose surnames are named after the games. PikachuJohnson (talk) 14:00, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Character Names
editIn the plot, someone vandalized the article, switching around Blue and Greens names and cleverly putting a warning say that those are the english names. All of them aren't switched around and I'm not familiar with the whole story, so can someone please fix this? --Ryu (Talk | Contributions) 05:39, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try to do that while trimming the plot section which is very long.Tintor2 (talk) 15:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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Shonen?
editPokémon Adventures isn't a Shonen manga. Shonen manga is aimed at people 12 to 18. Thus Shōnen manga contains blood, swearing, amd sexual content. Pokémon adventures has none of that. Yes the earlier chapters had more mature content but, that's no longer the case in later chapters. People please respect my edit. Flxsh zeraora (talk) 20:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- It actually depends on the magazine is serialized rather than the content. For example, xxxHolic is published in a seinen magazine but there is no people dying all over the place or any kind of extreme sex appeal. Also, check guidelines. Nobody owns the Wikipedia articles as they are free to edit so don't make any controversial change without achieving a WP:Consensus. I'll request more opinions.Tintor2 (talk) 21:36, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Shonen is aimed at people aged at people 12 - 18, yes, but you have to remember it's what appeals to them, rather than what they are mature enough to handle. Therefore this is shonen. ECPBlue (talk) 21:05, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- From CoroCoro Comic: "Its main target is elementary school aged boys"
- Unfortunately this statement is completely unsourced. The only source on the article that gives a demographic for the magazine is an ANN article, which declares it a "children's manga magazine".[1] In the past, this article was cited for the shōnen demographic, but a Google Translation doesn't show it. Even a quick search for the kanji 少年 doesn't appear in the article. And although Pokemon Adventures ran in CoroCoro Ichiban instead of CoroCoro Comic, there are no sources that it targets a different demographic.
- BTW, the demographic should be listed as "Children" instead of "Kodomo" per MOS:FOREIGN. Kodomo is not in common use in the English language nor is it not used as a demographic descriptive by reliable English-language sources —Farix (t | c) 22:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
ECPBlue, it is not a Shonen. Manga magazines dictate what demographic it is. If the manga was only published in a Children’s magazine then it’s demographic is children. However, Shonen is for teenage boys 12-18. CoroCoro isn’t a Shonen. In order for a manga to be a Shonen, Shojo, Seinen or Josei, it MUST be published in a magazine aimed at one of those above types of demographic. So you’re personal preference has no relevance in this factor. SG1994! (talk) 00:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
It doesn’t matter about appeal. It matter what the magazine company deems it as. The magazine was written to have material for children. That’s all that needs ti be said. SG1994! (talk) 00:56, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Many places classified its as a shonen manga, even in Japan also is. Example: https://dokusho-ojikan.jp/series_list/series_id=107151?book_id=811596&ref=seriesDetail_bookImage_107151 https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/315836/vol_no/001 https://honto.jp/netstore/pd-book_28491462.html 2001:B011:C007:5433:C7D:E884:A39E:AFC0 (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
There is no statement that says it’s a Shonen. Coro Coro Ichiban is a Kodomo-Muke magazine. Shonen is a demographic for teen boys 12-18. Coro Coro isn’t credited as such. You’re wrong. Move on. SG1994! (talk) 01:06, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Rating
editI really want to get this article to meet Good Article criteria, but I'm new here. Basically, this section is here because I want to know what needs to be done for it to meet the criteria. I'll just really do what you want and I can. ECPBlue (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Heavily Edit the Plot section
editAs someone who contributed to the stub that was the BW arc, I want to add more material to the volume list and shorten the Plot section. AranaeHere (talk) 00:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)