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Biography problems
editThe biography seems to be comprised of a quick summary of his life followed by a much longer and more detailed summary. While the former is shorter and should be merged with the latter, my concern is whether the latter was copied. 24.126.199.129 22:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- see Pieter Zeeman - Biography at the Web Site of the Nobel Foundation 12.74.162.32 15:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Priority
editThere appears to be quite a bit of confusion about priority. The earlier version of this article stated "In 1896, at the request of Lorentz, he began investigating the effect of magnetic fields on a light source and discovered what is now known as the Zeeman effect."
Kox, in his inaugural lecture tells a different story. According to Kox, Zeeman worked at the time under Kamerlingh Onnes, on a project about the conductivity of fluids. Kox suggests that Zeeman did his famous experiment a sort of in between his other lab work without anybody, including his chief Kamerlingh Onnes, knowing about it. Zeeman made his first crucial discovery on Wednesday September 2, 1896. By the end of September, after some more in between experiments, he felt confident enough to tell Kamerlingh Onnes about it. Kamerlingh Onnes was sufficiently impressed to think that it should be published.
Kamerling Onnes (who was a member of the Academy of Sciences, while Zeeman was not) communicated Zeeman's results to the Academy on Saturday October 31, 1896. That was where Lorentz, also an Academy member, first heard about it. Lorentz has an explanation ready, based on his theory of electromagnetic radiation. Where Lorentz came in was the issue of polarization. It was Lorentz' suggestion that Zeeman should look at polarization effects, since Lorentz' theory made certain predictions about that. JdH 15:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Citation for Zeeman Being Fired from his Job
editThere is a reference to Zeeman being fired from his job in a research laboratory after finishing his PhD, because he used laboratory equipment to study the 'Zeeman effect'. The anecdote is mentioned in this peer reviewed paper: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003AdSpR..32..895S (pdf: http://cassian.memphis.edu/physics/SOLAR/publications/SunStar.pdf ). However, the author of the paper did not provide a citation for the story. --Pohuigin (talk) 01:53, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Assessment comment
editThe comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Pieter Zeeman/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
hello, here's some suggestions: try to work on lead per WP:LEAD and also it lacks inline citations. Also, it has a cleanup tag. If you'd like to get a higher rating than B (which is a good rating, BTW), you can submit it to GA or seek a Peer review with us to see if it rates A --plange 05:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC) |
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citation in Nature of young P. Zeeman's observation of aurora borealis
editI found a possible source, but I can't find the exact citation mentioned in wikipedia article ("the careful observations of Professor Zeeman from his observatory in Zonnemaire". ) in this issue of Nature (1883-01-25: Vol 27 Iss 691 -- https://archive.org/details/sim_nature-uk_1883-01-25_27_691/page/298/mode/2up?view=theater ).
Maybe there is another issue of the Nature journal where his observations are cited though. Ptr here (talk) 21:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)