Talk:Osman Nuri Pasha

Ghazi

According to the biography in New International Encyclopedia, the meaning of the term Ghazi is "the victorious." His name and honorary title were Osman Nuri Pasha. Superslum 19:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• Despite that fact that Pasha (Paşa) is also an honorary title, I have left it as part of his name, especially since he is often called simply Osman Pasha. Bejnar 21:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

By the way, ghazi "gazi" means wounded veteran in Turkish Esseq (talk) 13:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Birth Place

Birth place is not Amasya, it was Tokat.Ugur Olgun 12:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Webpage of Tokat's governor is providing information about Osman Pasha. Here is the link: http://www.tokat.gov.tr/pages.asp?id=26 However webpage is in Turkish. Ugur Olgun 14:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Birth and death dates

There are disagreements about his birth year 1832 (or 1833) vs. 1837. 1832 seems to be correct, but I would like to check more sources. His death day is listed as either 5 April (most sources) or 12 April (Encyc.Brit.). 5 April seems to be correct. His death year is listed as either 1897 or 1900. 1900 seems to be correct. Please help with sources on these if you have access to any authoritative ones. Thanks. Bejnar 19:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Merger

I merged the long text from Gazi Osman Pasha and the short text from Osman Nuri Pasha, leaving out the parts that were not relevant to Osman's history, and ones that I could not verify. I rewrote almost all of the article. I hope that the result is appropriately neutral, NPOV. I have provided links to three books that are available from Google Book Search. Chambers Biographical Dictionary and Harper Encyclopedia of Military Biography aren't that useful. Bejnar 21:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

External links with POV

On 19 February 2007, Artaxiad deleted external link -

• Ozan, Mahmut Esat "Remembering "The Turkish Tiger Who Tamed The Russian Bear At ’Plevne’" The Turkish Forum;

from this article on the grounds that it was "No good". There is no question that the article has a definite point of view, which it expressly states. The article also has images and information that is beyond the scope of the Wikipedia article. Much of the information in the article is verifiable, including quotations. I am not sure why Artaxiad considered it no good, other than its obvious POV. So the question is, should Wikipedia have an external link to a resource which contains solid information beyond the scope of the Wikipedia article (and not otherwise available on the Internet), but which is, in and of itself, not authoritative, and which has an acknowledged POV? --Bejnar 18:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

The website is written in a POV manner everything on that site is bias, yet adding links like that is dumb meaning the site is not reliable does not fit the criteria for external links. On WP:LINKS number two of links to be avoided states, "Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. See Reliable sources." when the whole site is made to mislead a user, we don't need links like that. Artaxiad 23:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Pleven

The name of the city is Pleven - not Plevna or Plevne - as it has always been. I've no idea where this "Plevna" thing came from... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.130.15.40 (talk) 20:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Same comment to Lovcha - the actual name of the city is Lovech... just wondering who, the hell, wrote this article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.130.15.40 (talk) 22:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The English common name of the siege of Plevna is the Siege of Plevna. (See Talk:Siege of Plevna#Move request). Takabeg (talk) 10:09, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved to Osman Nuri Pasha. Favonian (talk) 11:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

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Osman Nuri Paşa → Osman Nuri Pasha – per WP:COMMONNAME (maybe WP:USEENGLISH).

• "Osman Nuri Pasha" -Llc 229 results
• "Osman Nuri Pasa" -Llc 87 results

Anyway, in English Wikipedia, the term Pasha is used. I don't understand why Paşa is used for only this person. Takabeg (talk) 10:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Support; "Pasha" seems to be the standard way to "Anglicize" names like this. -- Vmenkov (talk) 12:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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External links

On 13 May 2014‎, IP editor 78.189.109.148 added three external inks under the References section. All three are short bios in Turkish. I was going to move them to the external links section, but after looking at them, none of them seem to add information that is not available from the other sources. One of them seems to be copied from the Turkish government site. I have removed them as not authoritative and as not adding anything. The three were:

• http://www.gop.edu.tr/gaziosmanpasa.aspx
• http://www.gaziosmanpasa.org/gazi-osman-pasa-kimdir/
• http://www.kimkimdir.net.tr/kisiler/gazi-osman-pasa (same text as http://www.tokat.gov.tr/default_B0.aspx?content=463)

--Bejnar (talk) 14:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

General grammar and story

The article is written in a poor English with some grammatical errors. It should be reviewed by a native speaker.

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